Posted on 12/22/2005 12:17:13 PM PST by theFIRMbss
Actually, what they used to say is "Testiculos habet et bene pendentes", which roughly translates to "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely". Kind of funny actually!
As to the whole debate over whether she actually existed, I'd think that the matter would be easy enough to settle. One of the few things that all of the versions of the legends agree on is that she gave birth in that carriage, and that she was buried in that spot under the street. Since we know exactly which street, and even which part of the street, that the popess was supposedly exposed on, it would be trivial to scan it to see if there's actually anyone buried there.
I don't doubt that the Catholic Church had the ability to bury events they wanted forgotten, and the fact that they had centuries to do it makes it all the more plausible that such an event of this magnitude could have been covered up. Still, I don't think she actually existed. The fact that no OTHER nations outside of Catholic Europe recorded an intermediary pope during this period is a fairly solid indication that it didn't happen. Even Muslim historians briefly mention the appointment and deaths of the Catholic popes, since Christian Europe was one of their main adversaries and the pope was seen as one of their leaders. There's no mention of an intermediary pope in that period, and certainly no mention of one being female (which Muslims would have found to be devastatingly scandalous and would have written about extensively).
Pope Joan is an URBAN myth............
Same to you!
It's about as true as The DaVinci Code.
You know, I have heard folks say Joe Theisman had balls . . . I guess that must mean once upon a time there was a quarterback who was really a girl and the NFL covered it up, but today we still indicate real male quarterbacks by saying that they have balls . . . It all makes sense now! |
I think it's because
Christians -- not even Mormons
or Catholics -- don't
track down and murder
people who slander Christ or
Christianity.
We don't strap on bombs
and blow up innocent folks
if we feel slighted.
We are a backward
religion out of touch with
modern world values . . .
I'd bet money that
if Jim Robinson paid out
proper loads of cash,
Newsweek would put him
on the cover and report
that Free Republic
is the greatest thing
since the New Deal . . . Seems to me
it's just a question
of knowing how much
to pay to whom and how to
do it sub rosa . . .
Thanks for the laugh tonight, I really needed it... :)
This is anti-Catholic bigotry, plain and simple.
The Da Vinci Code, and now this garbage.
Shame on ABC.
A "Pope Joan" debunking: The Myth of Pope Joan by Alain Boureau
...
How many pieces
does TV do revealing
the seamy side of
Islam? Do we read
"novels" of conspiracies
among the Muslims?
Anti-Catholic
stuff I think is driven more
by cowardice than
serious hatred
of Catholics. The "mainstream"
wants to report on
religious matters,
but they're afraid to cover
the noteworthy one
because if they do
there might be consequences.
So they play it safe
and re-hash old crap
about this or that Christian
sect. They're just cowards.
Catholic Ping
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Myth.
Made up.
False.
Likely fattening, too.
<< You Got it!
Mcain beats Hitlary! >>
God forbid either of those dangerous psychotics gets anywhere near the oval office.
Actually. Pope Joan was a rather broad-beamed German girl named Hilda von Hinderbinder. Absolutely true, a fertig fraulein from one of those little principalities down on the German/Mexican border, Beaner-Schnitzel. She used to run a Chinese-German restaurant, but an hour later she was hungry for power. Determined to be Pope, she goes to her tailor to get her some clothes to conceal her more prominent feminine characteristics. She is delighted with the results:
"Du has done ein Vunn-derful schjob, Herr Hollzemfrumfloppen!"
Um.... and she ummm... and she wrote an encyclical, "Ist es zutreffende Ariere hat mehr Spaß?" but nobody could understand it because all the verbs were in the last paragraph... And I swear, she was Benedict the 16th's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandmama.
Ehrlich zum Gott.
Wait, you forgot Joan..and Hilary.
A total fabrication, right up there with the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion". This is religous HATE SPEECH of the ugliest kind.
"The problem with this subject is that the ancient and medival church is not exactly an honest, reliable source."
Name ONE "honest, reliable source" that reveals this alleged historical fact that could POSSIBLY have been revealed by a contemporary (or 'primary') source. Just ONE. The FIRST reference to this is HUNDREDS of years AFTER the alleged events.
If your standard is a "honest, reliable source", then you need to apply that to this travesty of history. It is bogus bigotry aimed at the largest Christian community in the world, now or ever. It is an OUTRAGE.
Sorry to the Dinosaur Media, Hitlary is unworthy of even dog catcher.
THERE ya' go. That's the best review of this novel, A WORK OF FICTION BASED UPON FANTASY, I've read.
In general, everyone should keep in mind that Diane Sawyer is married to the ugly man who directed "Angels in America" among other profanities.
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