Homosexual Activists Cheer Appointment of New San Francisco Archbishop

LifeSiteNews ^ | 23 December 2005 | Hilary White

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

LOL!

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

There's a difference between a "failing" and perpetuating a failed ideology. The weakness of this bishop is of the latter category. The fact that it is in direct opposition to the scripture he purports to preach should be of some concern to the organization that promoted him.

[CdMGuy]

Well, I am no fan of Roger Mahoney and his ilk. However, the portrayal of Tod Brown, Bishop of Orange, in this article is questionable in my opinion. I have lived in Orange County for 23 years. Just about all of the priest problems existed under prior bishops and when Orange County was part of the LA Archdiocese.

Tod Brown has spent the better part of his relatively short term as bishop negotiating settlements of cases that took place before he arrived in OC. It has been about 2 years since the diocese has reached a global settlement with most plaintiffs.

Perhaps he is a member of the Camarillo Mafia. That is news to me. Is every graduate of St. John's Seminary considered to be a member? All I know is that in the several years since he took over when Bishop Norman McFarland retired, I have neither read nor heard of any funny business under his rule. In fact, there is a rather strict list of standards prominently posted in every church in the diocese, and anyone, religious or lay, working in any paid or voluntary position has his or her background checked out in depth. If anyone knows otherwise, I would like to hear about it.

[Frank Sheed]

There are other options you fail to consider. It is possible that Pope Benedict allowed Archbishop Levada to name his own successor. He has the good Archbishop in Rome and meets with him each Friday evening. I wonder just WHO is calling the shots since the Pope was always the titular head of the CDF until very recently. Plus, the new Archbishop of SF is 69 and will retire reasonably soon (5-6 years) so this is a stop-gap appointment. Finally, the Holy Father named a really tough diplomat as his new Nuncio and the Nuncio has enormous power in naming and assessing Bishops.

In assessing the His Holiness, I fear you are not playing three dimensional chess. I wager he does. Also, I'd ask you to pray for the Pope each day. I surely do.

Cheers,
F

[Frank Sheed]

I know I'm reaching here, but every cloud has a silver lining.

Let's see who is moved to Utah. If it someone very orthodox, the carousel is over. If it is someone "squishy," then we'll see what happens next, shall we?

F

[oldironsides]

You can say, goodbye Hugh. This is not what the church needs right now.

[Unam Sanctam]

Houston, we have a problem.

[churchillbuff]

this incident will give Benedict the reason he needs to step in and sort out the Church in America once and for all."""

Let me follow you here. Benedict hiring this guy will give Benedict an excuse to sort out the mess created by hiring this guy? Am I following you?

[reg45]

Doug Neidermeyer?

[YOUGOTIT]

“Some who are seriously mistaken have named sexual orientation as the cause of the recent scandal regarding the sexual abuse of minors by priests,”

They are not mistaken. Perverts are perverts period and if they are perverted to young boys (why do so many Homos travel to Thailand and Cambodia, where they buy young boys) they are homos period and should not be in the priesthood.

[Aussie Dasher]

No, I don't think you are.

The American Church has been in a bad way for a long time. Benedict desperately wants to get it back on the straight and narrow. This just might give him the smoking gun he needs to step in big-time.

[Baby Driver]

There are not ten good men in the whole of the city.

[Coleus]

Has anyone mentioned this to Benedict? >>

I'll mention it to Benny the next time we have lunch.

[King Moonracer]

Hmm, now there's a movie, Gay cowboys and gay Indians. Of course I'd have Robocop appear and wipe the lot of them out. Call it artistic license, and it might do better than Humpback Mountain.

[Baby Driver]

An "Act of Faith" seems to be required here...

...i'll get the wood.

>Bo)

[brooklin]

I'm curious as to what Bible some of these churches use for their guidance? Have they not looked at the book of Romans?

[TYVets]

Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing.

The floor of Hades is paved with bishops skulls.

[markomalley]

FWIW, I will wait and see how he handles the situation he deals with before passing any kind of judgement on him.

His public statements on matters has been as the mouthpiece of the USCCB -- as a mouthpiece, one sometimes is placed in an unenviable position.

Furthermore, consider this:

The teachings of the Church state that homosexuality is a grave disorder and that acting on those homosexual tendencies is a mortal sin. But in the next breath, the Church also teaches that a homosexual person can live in a state of grace if he/ she acts with appropriate chastity for his/ her state of life. It further teaches that homosexuals are to be treated with dignity and respect.

So a bishop, who wishes to be completely faithful to the teachings of the Church, must tread a careful line (particularly as the spokesman for a rather liberal USCCB): on one hand, he must be faithful to the teachings of the Church. On the other hand, if he makes the wrong statement, he could be seen as giving the impiratur to gay-bashing and other abuse (which, in of itself, would be seen as sinful). It is, no matter what, a very, very difficult position.

Having said that, I would want to wait until the man takes his chair in SF. How does he act? Does he endorse homosexual activists? Or does he gently but firmly rebuke them? Does he, through a vocations director he appoints, make sure that only faithful men who are heterosexual go to the seminary?

I can guarantee you that the rainbow brigades (or whatever they are called) will test him shortly after he assumes the chair. How he reacts when (not if, but when) that happens will mean more to me than any kind of cheering done NOW by activists. What kind of pastoral letters does he publish within his see? That will mean a lot. What we see now means little or nothing to me...

[MillerCreek]

So, the Archbishop rejects the very nature of the Priesthood?

Men are called to sacrifice for God the marriage relationship. Homosexuals make no such sacrifice as to the Seminary and Priesthood but, instead, use it to proliferate their indulgences as to identifying as homosexuals.

I don't see any workaround here by ANY homosexual and/or advocate that I've read/heard as to trying to proclaim homosexuals suitable for the Priesthood.

I do note that they TRY to rely on the "sexual abuse" issue to sidestep the spiritual and Sacramental and Scripturual conditions and statements that define what homosexuality is, and why it bears no relationship in sincere application to the Priesthood.

I read, even on the internet, some who are currently in the Priesthood who are obviously homosexuals == and I write, "obviously" because they make a point of discussing and joking even, about what they find appealing, what they object to (the Scripture as it defines homosexuality) and more -- and they continue to prove out the very points that Pope Benedict has been clear to emphasize and that is that they embrace homosexuality as culture and personal affiliation in the Priesthood. Which is contrary to the Priesthood and the vows they say they've taken.