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Hard-liners Don't Speak For GOP
MiamiHerald ^ | Dec. 21, 2005 | Tamar Jacoby and Grover Norquist

Posted on 12/22/2005 4:12:12 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest

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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Norquist's Wedding No official officiation

Some eyebrows were raised last weekend when The Washington Post reported that Rabbi Daniel Lapin had presided over the wedding of conservative activist Grover Norquist and Samah Alrayyes -- since neither of the newlyweds is Jewish.

But a spokesperson for Toward Tradition, the conservative political group Lapin leads, said the Orthodox rabbi merely introduced the couple at a celebration of the nuptials. Norquist and his bride were officially married by a justice of peace prior to the party.


41 posted on 12/22/2005 4:55:24 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Simply not going to read an article by a writer who thinks "civil" and "federal" are synonymns for "minor misdemeanor" and "felony".


42 posted on 12/22/2005 4:57:22 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: HighFlier
That's what I read as well.

Really doesn't matter because I know I'm far more American than Norquist ~

43 posted on 12/22/2005 4:59:26 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
" the majority of the GOP will eventually come together around an immigration policy worthy of the label Republican -- one that encourages the American Dream and rewards work, even as it restores the rule of law and enhances national security."

This is pure liberal hogwash! How can it restore the rule of law when the illegals are breaking the law? Gag!

44 posted on 12/22/2005 5:03:05 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: HighFlier
On the flip side, there are many who are starting a campaign to try to wrest some of your clients from you because of this decision you've made.

This is not the first time the Allyn company has represented Mexican interests. Former clients also included Governors in the Mexican states of Aguascalientes, Guanajuato and Chiapas:

Allyn & Company

45 posted on 12/22/2005 5:13:59 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
For whatever reasons of their own, Norquist and Jacoby use the word "reform" to mean "anti-reform." Maybe it's an "iedolgoical lisdexia."

Norquist has been a pathetic joke for quite a while now, but this is stooping pretty low even for him.

46 posted on 12/22/2005 5:27:41 PM PST by x
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
turns illegal presence in this country from a civil violation into a federal crime

How many male Illegal Aliens have registered with Selective Service? Failure to register is a federal offense: if prosecuted and convicted, you could face up to five years' imprisonment and a $250,000 fine.

47 posted on 12/22/2005 5:37:05 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

"BARF ALERT"

Why, thank you, suh!


48 posted on 12/22/2005 5:48:12 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

bump


49 posted on 12/22/2005 5:48:51 PM PST by lowbridge (All that is needed for evil to triumph is for "RINOS" to do something)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Either the "Law" is the "Law" or it is not. When a nation, founded on laws, no longer enforces its laws, what becomes of that nation? I say, it ceases to be a nation.


50 posted on 12/22/2005 5:53:45 PM PST by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: GLDNGUN

Kind of like the demands for "taller, thicker, stronger" levees for NOLA.


51 posted on 12/22/2005 6:08:30 PM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: kcvl
I think that the report of Paul Sperry that Norquist would not comment on converting to Islam, as "too personal" is rather telling.

And keep in mind that Mr. Grover Norquist is supposedly Karl Rove's "Best Friend".

This is absolutely chilling for any true American.

52 posted on 12/22/2005 6:12:18 PM PST by Paul Ross (My idea of American policy toward the Soviet Union is simple...It is this, 'We win and they lose.')
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
... and this is missing a "Barf Alert!" because...? :)

because it is true, no matter how many freepers writhe in pure hatred over it.

53 posted on 12/23/2005 2:17:24 AM PST by chronic_loser ((Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.))
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero
And yet again trying to confuse the issues of legal versus illegal immigration.

No they are not, and if you read the article (novel idea, that!) you would see that it is not so.

You people want to START (and most of you want to FINISH) the debate by clear demarcations of legal v. illegal immigrants, and then you simply work to stop and expel the illegals. Simple. Problem solved.

We think that the REASON we have illegals is that our immigration policies are deeply flawed and don't comport with economic reality. In the process of STOPPING THE FLOW OF ILLEGALS (many of us support a wall/fence), we believe that it is a better idea to expand and control the legal flow of immigrants, and register the ones already here.

The problem is that the "hardliners" or whatever you want to call them are filled with venom, spite, and a willing refusal to do anything but stick their fingers in their ears and shriek "ILLEGAL, DEPORT!"

Reactions to freepers advocating anything other than this prove my point in spades. They are called traitors, spineless, America haters, quislings, fools, closed DU clones, liberals, and socialists, among other such rants. It might be charged that I - who love to bait the crazies - deserve all the venom. However, I have seen a whole crowd of new freepers come into these threads and have reasonable questions/challenges. The responses are the same.

Further, the hard line freepers don't make any attempt to "police" their own ranks, but refuse to speak up when the foam flecked crazies purport to speak for them. You have nutjobs who think all illegals are a part of La Raza, cretins who claim that one in ten illegals is a serious criminal, and shriveled up spiteful little haters who openly wish every illegal would die within a mile of crossing the border (all comments from this fine crew in the last 3 days).

No one from the "expel and deport" crew says anything about this kind of stuff. If you don't take out your own trash, don't be apalled when people drive by your house and hold their noses. They will, and you can sit in the living room in your moral superiority of being the only real patriots left, immune to the stench of the loons and your own self righteous preening.

America IS concerned about the borders, and should be. If you think that concern is evidence that they have joined you little Tancredo cabal, you have some very bitter awakenings coming up.

54 posted on 12/23/2005 2:41:21 AM PST by chronic_loser ((Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.))
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To: Sonny M

Grover still in bed with the towel heads too?


55 posted on 12/23/2005 3:01:01 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: metesky
Grover still in bed with the towel heads too?

Grover will hop into bed with anyone that pushes his belief or might push some of his beliefs.

He is a "ends justify the means" type.

He wants smaller government, and lower taxes (as do I), but he also will sell his soul to anyone in that regard, includes terrorists.

FWIW, in various interviews, (he is married now) he had implied repeatedly that he is an atheist, and plays a government paranoia type.

He is also part of the open borders crowd, big time.

57 posted on 12/23/2005 8:58:59 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Paulus Invictus
This is pure liberal hogwash! How can it restore the rule of law when the illegals are breaking the law?

It's Orwellian at its finest. In order to restore the rule of law we're going to do away with it.

58 posted on 12/23/2005 12:18:58 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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How many times do we have to point out to the open borders idiots, we are not anti-immigration!!!! We are anti criminal aliens.
59 posted on 12/23/2005 12:52:58 PM PST by rock58seg (It's time for Islam to actually become a religion of peace or a religion of the past.)
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How many times do we have to point out to the open borders idiots, we are not anti-immigration!!!! We are anti criminal aliens.

It doesn't matter, you're wasting your time. The latest euphamism from these clowns is "newcomers without documents".

60 posted on 12/23/2005 1:31:05 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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