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Eurasianism, an EU alternative?
UPI ^ | 12/22/2005 | CLAUDE SALHANI

Posted on 12/22/2005 5:39:27 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

WASHINGTON, Dec. 22 (UPI) -- Turkey has been pushing for full membership in the European Community for almost 50 years now. And for 50 years Brussels Eurocrats have repeatedly told the Turks they are not quite ready.

Brussels has repeatedly told Turkey it still has giant steps to take in order to reach a level of democracy acceptable to the EU. Consecutive Turkish governments were given a long sundry list of action points that had to be implemented before the EU would consider allowing Turkey into the club. Turkey had to meet the Copenhagen Criteria for human rights and free market, it had to abolish torture in its prisons and ease up on the Kurds. Then there remains the unresolved Cyprus question.

Finally, earlier this year, the Turks were told by Brussels they might be allowed into the EU, but only after an intense negotiation period of 10-15 years, during which time the Turks will be analyzed and scrutinized to make sure they finally comply with all the demands set forth by Brussels. Ten to 15 years is a very long time for a government to wait. Especially the current Islamist-leaning one led by Receb Tayyip Erdogan, who needs to show he is making progress.

Meanwhile, Russian President Vladimir Putin enters the scene. The Eurasian scene. Putin, forever the Machiavellian politician he has proven to be -- let us not forget his background as a senior KGB officer -- is pushing forward the idea of a new political-economic bloc of influence: Eurasianism.

"Putin is pushing Eurasianism," said Zeyno Baran, director of the International Security and Energy Programs at the Nixon Center, a conservative think tank in Washington.

"Don't forget you have the new centers of emerging powers: China and India," said Baran. And Putin is very likely telling Turkey it can join right away. No need to undergo a purgatorial waiting period of a decade to a decade and a half. Forget the EU, come join us now.

With Russia, China and the "Stans," the former Soviet Central Asian Muslim republics in the group, no one is going to bicker with Turkey over a few abuses of human rights, if and when they occur.

Baran, who just returned from Turkey, said that more and more Turks are getting very frustrated with the EU constantly raising the bar on its entry into the Union. Furthermore, says Baran, though both the Turkish government and the Turkish people want better relations with the United States, they feel the situation in Iraq is preventing any rapprochement.

Turks keep asking "what is the end game in Iraq?" What is the U.S. position regarding the Kurds and Kirkuk?" said Baran. (The Kurds are now in a position to slowly muscle the Arabs out of Kirkuk, the key to control of the northern Iraqi oilfields.)

"What is the U.S. position vis-à-vis the PKK," -- the Kurdish guerrilla movement considered by Ankara to be a terrorist organization.

Turkey is keeping a wary eye on the progress of Iraqi Kurds lest they start to awaken similar sentiments of autonomy, or even worse, ideas of independence, among the Kurds in Turkey. All this is starting to seriously worry the Turkish military -- traditionally the guarantor of Turkey's secular Kemalist ideals.

Some analysts believe the Turkish military is beginning to split over fears the Islamist-leaning government of Erdogan is slowly turning Turkey into an Islamic state. Some military officers are displeased with the way Erdogan's government is maintaining unhealthy close relations with Syria and Iran.

And according to some reports, said Baran, certain elements in Turkey's political circles are starting to look at Washington for help.

"Next year, 2006, will focus very much on how Turkey can cooperate on Iraq, Iran and Syria," said Baran.

On the one hand, Turkey has a problem in the Middle East, but on the other, one causing greater concern to the West, is its growing relations with the Central Asian countries, with whom it shares the same religion, Islam.

A political-economic free trading bloc engulfing most of Asia -- China, population 1.3 billion; India, 1.08 billion; Russia, 143 million and the combined former Soviet republics (Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan) 67.3 million, presenting a combined population of close to 4 billion people, will dwarf the EU's 520 million citizens, though the individual European's purchasing power remains far superior.

The Eurasian concept will certainly be quite tempting to many Turks, among whom resentment of the EU is rapidly growing.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: eurasianism; kurds; russia; turkey
Russia pursues joint military projects with Turkey
1 posted on 12/22/2005 5:39:27 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

bump


2 posted on 12/22/2005 5:41:43 PM PST by RippleFire ("It's a joke, son!")
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To: Tailgunner Joe
If Turkey's smart, they'll play one off against the other, instead of being perpetually disrespected by both.
3 posted on 12/22/2005 5:45:05 PM PST by Lejes Rimul (Paleo and Proud)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

If the EU had half a brain, they wouldn't let even one more muslim individual in, let alone a country.

Once Turkey is an EU member, muslims from all over will flood through Europe, entering via member-state Turkey.


4 posted on 12/22/2005 6:09:52 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
Once Turkey is an EU member, muslims from all over will flood through Europe, entering via member-state Turkey.

Geez, what a nightmare. 60 million or so Turks heading west to shop for welfare across EUrabia and demanding their "rights" on behalf of their false god would probably suffice...

5 posted on 12/22/2005 6:27:48 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

A Eurasian trading bloc from China to Turkey would be formidable -- economically. You'd have China's massive industrial engine, India's technology and services base, Russia and the Stan's oil -- a prosperous entity. The plus point for the US is that these would instinctively break the OPEC oil cartel and by bringing prosperity, they would be less interested in using military force to solve problems.


6 posted on 12/22/2005 8:02:26 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
presenting a combined population of close to 4 billion people

uh, no, a combined population of close to 2.5 billion people. ASEAN won't join this association, they'd be dwarved by the big boys: Russia, China and India. Japan may join them economically, but I doubt it. China, India and Japan would also be parts of the other economic bloc: the Asia Pac bloc (including ASEAN, ANZ, the US and Latin America. India's also creating an Indian Ocean trading bloc with India, Indonesia, Australia, Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia, Burma, Kenya, Tanzania, South Africa.
7 posted on 12/22/2005 8:06:36 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The Turkey-issue is not that important to the EU since it will take a minimum of 15 years for them to come close enough to be a real member nation if they have developed their economy and society to a suitable standart then. The idea of a connection between Russia and the EU is far more interesting. If the Russians are able to develop their "guided democracy" into something real with stable conditions, they will be a natural partner to the EU. The reasons are very simple: Western Europe has the know-how and the industries and Russia has all the raw-materials. Somehow a unbeatable connection. If the Russians will fail to develop, they are going to be a Chinese province in 25 years from now.


8 posted on 12/22/2005 8:11:39 PM PST by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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To: Lejes Rimul

If Turkey waits a few more years it won't be the European Union that they're joining but the Land Of Conquered Infidels.


9 posted on 12/22/2005 9:08:46 PM PST by rdcorso (There Is No Such Thing As A Neutral Person During A War With Radical Islam.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

One of the stumbling blocks to Turkey becoming an EU member is Cyprus, which was admitted recently. They are threatening blocking Turkey's accession unless there is at least some progress on the "Cyrprus question", such as getting Turkish troops off the island, monetary recompense to displaced Greeks, etc.


10 posted on 12/22/2005 9:11:32 PM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: Cronos

If you are to look at the statistics of state violence frequency from Huntington's "Clash", you would have doubts regarding "they would be less interested in using military force to solve problems" claim. If anything, the opposite claim is more likely to be true: there will be more power available for their already violent propensities. Thus the best hope will be their internecine struggle - let them maul one another.


11 posted on 12/23/2005 12:17:14 AM PST by GSlob
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Meanwhile, Russian President Vladimir Putin enters the scene. The Eurasian scene. Putin, forever the Machiavellian politician he has proven to be -- let us not forget his background as a senior KGB officer -- is pushing forward the idea of a new political-economic bloc of influence: Eurasianism.

Putin's been reading his Mackinder!

http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/AD_Issues/amdipl_14/sempa_mac1.html

From the link:

Halford Mackinder’s ideas, which began to appear in print almost a century ago, have assumed classic status in the world of political geography. Policy makers and scholars remember them now mainly for the seemingly simple formula that control of Eastern Europe would bring command of the “Heartland,” thus control of the “World-Island” (Eurasia), and ultimately the world. His ideas in their entirety, including his own later reconsiderations, form a complex, powerful body of work.

12 posted on 12/23/2005 6:31:05 AM PST by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

ping


13 posted on 10/19/2006 11:22:51 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Army Air Corps

ping


14 posted on 08/16/2008 7:54:36 PM PDT by MarMema (The people of Georgia have cast their lot with the free world, and we will not cast them aside)
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