[Eric in the Ozarks]

I trust these Russian made ships will be as good as previous Russian made ships.

[Jacquerie]

I trust these Russian made ships will be as good as previous Russian made ships.

When I left the world of ASW fifteen years ago, the Russians were building (thanks to the Walker spy family)some fine submarines. For the chicoms we aren't talking about dominance. All they need to do is deny the US Navy free movement in the waters east of Taiwan. A fleet of even old Kilo diesel/electric boats will keep aircraft carrier captains awake at night.

[thinking]

lol...I was thinking the same thing....those rust buckets, that never sailed, "tied up" awaiting battle orders...