[goldstategop]

Darwin never asserted his theory sought to explain ultimate origins. It only sought to explain the empirically risible processes behind the variety and extent of adaptation of living things to their environment on earth. It leaves open the question of whether all things came into being through an Ultimate Cause. You can deny that one exists like a number of scientists do. Then again you'd be as dogmatic and dishonest as the creationists are. There's plenty of room for ground where both science and religion can meet in harmony.

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[fizziwig]

"There's plenty of room for ground where both science and religion can meet in harmony."

I agree, but evolution by chance is completely incompatible with the Judeo Christian concept of God, and certainly incompatible with the Christian concept of the fall of man and redemption through Christ.

But we have been down that road...you don't believe there are any true athiests out there (i.e. blind chancers) but I cannot fathom how you can come to that conclusion.