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Gay 'marriage' battles rage on into third year
Washington Times ^ | 12/26/05 | Cheryl Wetzstein

Posted on 12/26/2005 8:25:18 AM PST by Dane

Homosexual-rights groups are eager to defeat California's marriage amendments because it would "blunt the momentum of these amendment battles," said Seth Kilbourn, leader of the Marriage Project for the Human Rights Campaign (HRC). Also, "let's not forget that California lawmakers passed a [homosexual]-marriage bill this year," said Mr. Kilbourn, referring to legislation that Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed in September. "If we can defeat the ballot measure, I think we can move forward again with that bill," he said. Leaders of California's marriage-amendment campaigns, protectmarriage.com and VoteYesMarriage.com, have warned that their measures must go before voters so they can speak on marriage. However, the VoteYesMarriage.com campaign is still in its fundraising stage and protectmarriage.com officials said late last week that they had not collected enough signatures to meet tomorrow's deadline. Elsewhere, four states -- Alabama, South Carolina, South Dakota and Tennessee -- are scheduled to hold votes on marriage amendments in 2006, although Tennessee's proposal has been challenged in court.

In addition, lawmakers in Wisconsin and Virginia are likely to approve marriage amendments while petition drives in Arizona, Florida and Illinois may put amendments before voters as well.

In the courts, homosexuals' lawsuits are under way in California, Connecticut, Iowa, Maryland, New Jersey, New York and Washington state. The Washington decision is considered imminent.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: fma; homosexualagenda; marriageamendment; protectmarriage
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1 posted on 12/26/2005 8:25:19 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
The gay rights lobby still insists on forcing Americans to celebrate the moral validity of their lifestyle. That shows how out of touch they are with Middle American mores.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

2 posted on 12/26/2005 8:28:54 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Dane

First they asked society to not punish them. Done.

Then they asked society to accept them. Done.

Now they demand that society condone them. Never.


3 posted on 12/26/2005 8:33:52 AM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: Jacquerie

It's happening in other countries (homosexual marriage). And it will happen here unless we get the constitutional amendment, which I haven't heard much about recently.


4 posted on 12/26/2005 8:38:16 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Dane

later pingout.


5 posted on 12/26/2005 8:40:06 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Dane
Battles? Last time I checked if the people had their way it would be crushed even in the darkest blue states.
The battle is on their side, our side doesn't even consider it a skirmish.

It is so lopsided the reason it gets as much headlines as it does is because of stupid people rooting for the underdog.

6 posted on 12/26/2005 8:41:36 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: mlc9852
It's happening in other countries (homosexual marriage). And it will happen here unless we get the constitutional amendment, which I haven't heard much about recently

Actually marriage is being protected in more countries such as the eastern European countries of Latvia and Lithuania, and in Australia.

7 posted on 12/26/2005 8:44:21 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

LAPD coming to Gay Games to find cops
Chicago Sun-Times
December 26, 2005

BY ANNIE SWEENEY Crime Reporter

The Los Angeles Police Department is looking for a few good men and women -- and they're coming to Chicago to find them.

The department will be in the city in July during the Gay Games to recruit officers, even offering a written test over a four-day period, officials there said.

The LAPD also is co-sponsoring the games -- the first in the more than 20-year history of the games that will draw about 12,000 athletes competing in 30 events -- and will be marching in uniform during opening ceremonies along with members of Los Angeles' team, which will include officers.

"It demonstrates the commitment of the L.A. Police Department to diversity," said Kevin Boyer, co-vice chairman of the Gay Games Chicago Board of Directors. "We're very happy they are using the Gay Games to do that. It sends a strong message to other departments and the world."

The aggressive marketing move is also because Los Angeles -- which has a force of 9,200 -- needs to fill 400 newly created slots.

"Our overall crime rate is down, but we have areas of the city that it is not down enough," said Bruce Whidden, a spokesman for the LAPD's personnel department. "In order to take care of some hot spots, we need to grow the department."

No lack of applicants here

Whidden said officials hope the warm sun and a starting salary of $52,000 to $55,000 will be a draw for recruits.

The Chicago Police Department is in the middle of its own recruiting drive, recently announcing the application date will be extended to Jan. 9. Supt. Phil Cline also recently announced the test will be offered four times a year, instead of once, to give more people an opportunity to apply.

But police officials here said they don't mind that L.A. is trolling in Chicago for candidates. So far, 2,000 to 3,000 people have signed up to take the current test, according to department spokeswoman Monique Bond. She said 550 or so positions open each year because of attrition, and finding enough applicants is not a concern.

There have not been a significant number of new positions created in Chicago's 13,500-member force since President Bill Clinton authorized federal money for more police officers across the country in the 1990s, said City Council Police Committee Chairman Isaac Carothers (29th). Carothers said several other alderman expressed concern that some pockets of the city were not being covered adequately.

But a more pressing issue in Chicago, Carothers and department officials said, is the lack of minorities who are signing up for the test. The percentage of minorities signing up has fallen from a high of 50 percent in the early 1990s to just about 33 percent today, Carothers said.

Cline has reached out to African-American churches in the past, and just last week he met again with pastors and other religious leaders to ask for help recruiting.

Meanwhile, Chicago officials said they had no immediate plans to do a special recruitment during the Gay Games, and organizers said they don't think it is necessary, either.

"We are so thrilled with the response from the Chicago Police Department," Boyer said. "They have been a partner with us all along the way."

The Sun-Times Company


8 posted on 12/26/2005 8:45:52 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: mlc9852

Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a national referendum in this issue and settle it once and for all.


9 posted on 12/26/2005 8:50:23 AM PST by SQUID
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To: KeyLargo
"Our overall crime rate is down, but we have areas of the city that it is not down enough," said Bruce Whidden, a spokesman for the LAPD's personnel department. "In order to take care of some hot spots, we need to grow the department."

They're going to send the Queer Eye for the Straight Guy officers into the hood ?

10 posted on 12/26/2005 8:54:53 AM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Dane
All adults have privilege to marry one consenting adult of opposite gender; therefore, Fourteenth Amendment "equal protection" argument about "privileges and immunities" for homosexual marriage is invalid. Driving, marriage, legal and medical practices are not enumerated rights; they are privileged practices that require statutory license. Nothing that requires a license is a right.

It was landmark U.S. Supreme Court precedent Reynolds v. United States in 1878 that made "separation of church and state" a dubiously legitimate point of case law, but more importantly; it confirmed the Constitutionality in statutory regulation of marriage practices. Congress, state legislatures and public referenda have statutorily determined polygamous, pederast, homosexual, and incestuous marriages are unlawful. No Constitutional Amendment restricting marriage is required to regulate "practice" according to the Reynolds decision.

Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious belief and opinions, they may with practices...

[Reynolds v. United States, 98 U.S. 145, 8 Otto 145, 24 L. Ed. 244 (1878).]

See also: Late Corporation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints v. United States, 136 U.S. 1, 10 S.Ct. 792, 34 L. Ed. 478 (1890). Revised as 140 U.S. 665, 11 S.Ct. 884, 35 L. Ed. 592 (1891).

Marriage is a religious "rite," not a civil "right;" a secular standard of human reproductive biology united with the Judaic Adam and Eve model of monogamy in creationist belief. Two homosexuals cannot be "monogamous" because the word denotes a biological procreation they are not capable of together; human reproductive biology is an obvious secular standard.

Homosexual monogamy advocates are a cult of perversion seeking ceremonious sanctification for voluntary deviancy with anatomical function and desperately pursuing esoteric absolution to justify their guilt-ridden egos. This has no secular standard; it is an idolatrous fetish. Why not properly apply the adjudicated Reynolds 'separation of church and state' here?

No person can logically say that carnal practices engaged by homosexuals are consistent with human anatomical function. It is obvious, and an impervious secular argument to say that biology is a standard by which we can measure. The hormonal drive to mate is biologically heterosexual. Either homosexuality is a choice, a birth defect, or it is a mental illness. Take your pick.

11 posted on 12/26/2005 8:58:04 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: mlc9852
"....and it will happen here unless we get the constitutional amendment, which I haven't heard much about recently."

Because it will never happen.

12 posted on 12/26/2005 11:12:44 AM PST by IntheHillsGolden (You pass through places ...and places pass through you.........)
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To: mlc9852

"And it will happen here unless we get the constitutional amendment, which I haven't heard much about recently."

I don't think you'll see an amendment to our national Constitution, but many states are putting it to the voters. Wisconsin will vote on it in the 2006 elections, and we won't be the only one. Eleven states added the ban to their constitutions in 2004. :)

As of 2004-AUG:

* 37 states have enacted "Defense of Marriage Acts" (DOMAs) that ban same-sex marriage. Other states have similar legislation pending.
* 3 states (AK, NE, NV) have amended their state constitutions to ban SSM.
* 4 states (MD, OR, WI, WY) have marriage laws that specifically prohibit SSM
* 5 states (CT, NJ, NM, NY, RI) and DC have no explicit prohibition of SSM.
* 1 state (MA) allows SSM, but only to residents of the state.

I think this can be better handled and squelched at the state level, where it's closer to the people. Washington politicians aren't going to touch this one with a ten foot pole.

And really, we'd be so much better off legislating all of this type of "social" stuff at our state levels. It almost always goes the way of the people, with the few exceptions of activist judges that have overturned this gay marriage stuff. We have a better chance at stopping this perversion when we stand shoulder to shoulder and do the work our elected representatives refuse to do.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_marr.htm


13 posted on 12/26/2005 11:24:26 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: KeyLargo; EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

The MSM, as usual, promotes homosexual marriage and the rest of the "gay" agenda every time it draws breath. But the attitude of some that conservatives should "ignore it and it'll go away" is the very attitude that got us where we are today.

We should study what they're doing, and then FIGHT BACK!

Note the article posted at comment 8.

Freepmail me and DirtyHarryY2K if you want on/off this pinglist.

Note: Homosexuals in HR recruiting more of their brethren/sistren into various fields has been a very successful plan. It should be stopped. The "gay" agenda will not be stopped as long as conservatives are afraid of people calling them names and not liking them. Get over it! If everyone likes you there's something wrong with you.


14 posted on 12/27/2005 7:12:55 PM PST by little jeremiah
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