[sinkspur]

...you can't take the individual into any court and process charges on them...because the court will immedately demand the court-approved surveillance paperwork.

Uh, the court demands a warrant and probable cause for arrest. This is the first I've heard that any kind of paperwork is demanded for surveillance.

You've got your facts wrong. Besides, you are confusing law enforcement actions with actions during a time of war.

[ndt]

"This is the first I've heard that any kind of paperwork is demanded for surveillance."

That is what FISA warrants are.

"Besides, you are confusing law enforcement actions with actions during a time of war."

Declaring war is a power of congress and therefore Presidential discretion to wage war can be limited by congress. A limitation to presidential discretion is specifically applied by Congress in the FISA clause baring anyone to attempt to avoid it.

[inquest]

Uh, the court demands a warrant and probable cause for arrest. This is the first I've heard that any kind of paperwork is demanded for surveillance.

So it's perfectly constitutional for the government to arbitrarily tap anybody's phone it wants to, like was done in the Soviet Union and under Saddam Hussein's regime?