Skip to comments.Canada blames U.S. for gun violence
Posted on 12/27/2005 6:24:20 PM PST by LouAvul
TORONTO, Ontario (AP) -- Canadian officials, seeking to make sense of another fatal shooting in what has been a record year for gun-related deaths, said Tuesday that along with a host of social ills, part of the problem stemmed from what they said was the United States exporting its violence.
Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin and Toronto Mayor David Miller warned that Canada could become like the United States after gunfire erupted Monday on a busy street filled with holiday shoppers, killing a 15-year-old girl and wounding six bystanders -- the latest victims in a record surge in gun violence in Toronto.
The shooting stemmed from a dispute among a group of 10 to 15 youth, and the victim was a teenager out with a parent near a popular shopping mall, police said Tuesday.
"I think it's a day that Toronto has finally lost its innocence," Det. Sgt. Savas Kyriacou said. "It was a tragic loss and tragic day."
While many Canadians take pride in Canadian cities being less violent than their American counterparts, Toronto has seen 78 murders this year, including a record 52 gun-related deaths -- almost twice as many as last year.
"What happened yesterday was appalling. You just don't expect it in a Canadian city," the mayor said.
"It's a sign that the lack of gun laws in the U.S. is allowing guns to flood across the border that are literally being used to kill people in the streets of Toronto," Miller said.
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Nor because they make it difficult for their citizens to own defensive weapons?
Nah. Must be the Americans.
Do you suppose immigration policy may have any bearing on this violence?
Dream on, Canuckleheads.
Any word on the -- er -- uh -- ethnic identity of the shooter?
Then maybe their laws should be like ours and the gun crimes will leave their country also!
They wear too many coats this time of the year to worry about bullets don't they ?
lost its innocence
Somebody forgot the Puke Alert Sign!!! I'm telling the Mods!!!
So sorry, but they don't have ethnic identities in Canada, they are just one big happy diverse family. (Until the shooting breaks out.)
Were the shooters from the US?
All I can say is that the Canadians should stop emulating the US.
How do you "export" violence? What kind of a cargo container does it get transported in? Does USEXIM provide financing for such exports?
I suppose we could stop contracting, er, I mean outsourcing our auto parts manufacturing industry to them.
That is 77 more than my county has had the last TWO years.
And I blame Canada for Exporting MetroSexualism.
Guns are walking the streets stalking helpless peace-loving citizens.
Take away the guns and the only ones with guns are the criminals. Live or die by your laws.
Toronto, Ontario exports 100% of it's trash to Wayne County Michigan. Windsor's casino's are supported by U.S. residents. This is bullroar.
I blame Canada for rampant sodomy.
Why should it? They have kissed the asses of every group of people in the world with no regard to their place of birth. Their only requirement is that they come to Canada and hate the West.
But failed to offer proof that it was imported from the US.
I wasn't referring to any particular incident...just wondering about the effect of Canadian immigration (and especially asylum) policy on the violent crime rate in Toronto.
>>Any word on the -- er -- uh -- ethnic identity of the shooter?
The only pic I saw, of one of the perps being arrested, showed only the back of the guy's head. You couldn't see face, you couldn't see hands or arms, only hair.
Lets take over that country one Saturday and begin dumping our garbage there on Monday.
""It's a sign that the lack of gun laws in the U.S. is allowing guns to flood across the border that are literally being used to kill people in the streets of Toronto,"
So close the border and utopia will be restored....sheesh, what's so hard about that?
As I understand it, Jamaican and other imported groups are responsible for most of Canadian "gun crime."
Do they really believe they are a people without sin? What hubris.
They should be ashamed of themselves.
Leave it to a leftist moonbat to blame someone else for a problem THEY caused. I hear Canada is planning to tighten up even MORE on the gun control. Yeah, THAT'LL learn those criminals. Worked so well in Britain.
I'd kill people too if I lived in Canada...
How many years have we been on their southern border? And only NOW we've become a bad influence? LOL, guess they have to blame somebody.
This is a problem of gangs, not guns. Violent crime needs much harsher penalties. Bring back the death penalty in Canada and start eliminating these scum from the gene pool. Sorry, but criminals have a tendency to make more criminals, either by association or birthright. Removing my civil liberties because they refuse to deal with criminals properly really pisses me off.
File this one in the old "I don't give a rats ass" file.
Were the guns apprehended?
"It's a cop out. It's an easy way of looking at one symptom rather than addressing a whole disease," Thompson said.
Exactly. And in that way, the same as the U.S. If you take the gang (and even then, mostly inter-gang) violence out of the statistics you will find that violent crime in even the largest U.S. cities is very low-- except for that gang-related crime.
Nowhere in Canada (or the rest of the world for that matter) has there been anything even remotely like the inner city gang culture that has infested our cities. As that cancerous subculture is allowed to take root elsewhere, they'll see similar results.
I guess the U.S. efforts to double shooting deaths in one year in Canada have been working. /sarcasm
Instead of America perhaps the Canadians should take an honest look at their Jamaican immigrants.
You mean outlawing the Bible's "hate speech" would hasn't made all Canadians love each other more?
Well, they can't blame lil ol' New Hampshire, 'cause Boston's Mayor "Mumbles" Menino already blamed New Hampshire guns for the rise in homicides in his city.
(Besides, we keep our guns up here in NH...)
Pass me another Mooshead, eh hoser?
The problem is that they know very well what's causing the crime rate to go up, yet they publicly blame us for our gun policies.
Exactly right. I believe the Canadians should take all of the money they have been spending on the outdated idea of a standing military and build a really good fence...no, a wall on their southern border!
Not possible for a liberal to be ashamed of anything!!!!
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