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Some perspective on the NIST result noted in sourcery's thread from a few weeks ago:

NIST Physicists Coax Six Atoms Into Quantum 'Cat' State

1 posted on 12/28/2005 1:42:40 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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2 posted on 12/28/2005 1:43:14 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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Perfect communication device...........


3 posted on 12/28/2005 1:45:15 PM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him)
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Dead and alive is my cat's state.


4 posted on 12/28/2005 1:46:24 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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5 posted on 12/28/2005 1:46:31 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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The team that pulled off the beryllium feat....hailed it as another step toward computers that would use quantum magic to perform calculations.

Or cars that fly!

7 posted on 12/28/2005 1:47:00 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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Spooky action at a distance.


9 posted on 12/28/2005 1:49:58 PM PST by Restore
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Another big WOW!
I love quantum mechanics – but then again, I never did believe in a classical “reality”.


10 posted on 12/28/2005 1:50:07 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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Wow... That made my head hurt.


13 posted on 12/28/2005 1:54:02 PM PST by nuffsenuff (Don't get stuck on Stupid - General Russ Honore Sept 21, 2005)
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Well, I'm not a physicist, but from what I've read about these experiments, I'm not particularly convinced. It seems like they are basing their conclusions on assumptions that certain aspects of the quantum theory are correct. Sure, if you assume that the equations of quantum mechanics are correct, then you are going to get experimental results that seem consistent with them.

It doesn't really prove anything that these guys are able to poke holes in Einstein's conjectures. Einstein did not have all of the pieces of the puzzle, either. What is embarrassing, though, is that the groupthink the experimental physicists are engaged in does not seem to allow room for them to devise experiments that might test their own theories. They are only concerned about testing Einstein's.


15 posted on 12/28/2005 1:54:14 PM PST by Brilliant
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... the condition of being two diametrically opposed conditions at once ...

Quantum Kerry? For and Against! Brilliant yet Stupid!

18 posted on 12/28/2005 1:56:15 PM PST by TexGuy
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21 posted on 12/28/2005 2:00:32 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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These atoms were each spinning clockwise and counterclockwise at the same time.

I suppose it depends on whether you observe them from above or below.

I mean, the Earth rotates clockwise and counter-clockwise simultaneously...depending on whether the observer is looking down from above the North pole or the South pole.

27 posted on 12/28/2005 2:08:53 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society's understanding.)
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When I read this my nose is both bleeding and not bleeding at the same time.


29 posted on 12/28/2005 2:16:57 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3rd Bn. Fifth Marines RVN 1969)
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To a physicist, a "cat state" is the condition of being two diametrically opposed conditions at once, like black and white, up and down, or dead and alive. These atoms were each spinning clockwise and counterclockwise at the same time.

Big deal. John Kerry already achieved this state more than a year ago. Maybe we should start calling it the DemoCAT party.

30 posted on 12/28/2005 2:23:31 PM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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"Quantum Leap" bump.


40 posted on 12/28/2005 2:37:57 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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Seriously now, we don't actually HAVE unobserved cats, do we? They might like us to think so but a cat in a box is going to be measurable every time. They, and everything else macro, just don't go all at once into that unmeasured, unobserved state.
Only that little divine spark meets the radioactive atom at the OK Corral. The rest of the cat gives us the score later, no? The rest of the cat doesn't really change; in fact it stops changing, if it comes up dead.

Well if S. did have a cat I hope he called it Plato. ;)


41 posted on 12/28/2005 2:41:12 PM PST by Graymatter
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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
--- Arthur C. Clark

"When a distinguished and elderly scientist tells you that something is possible, he is almost certainly right.
When a distinguished and elderly scientist tells you that something is impossible, he is almost certainly wrong."

-- Arthur C. Clark

Clark was much more than a science fiction writer.
He was a philosopher of science.

So9

57 posted on 12/28/2005 4:02:15 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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63 posted on 12/28/2005 4:49:19 PM PST by mikrofon (Have spin will travel)
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66 posted on 12/28/2005 5:03:08 PM PST by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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The fog comes
on little cat feet.


67 posted on 12/28/2005 5:16:17 PM PST by razorback-bert
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