[DallasMike]

...creationists completely misunderstanding the Second Law of Thermodynamics in a hilarious and embarassing way.

I have a bachelor's degree in chemistry and a bachelor's degree in chemical engineering (both with GPAs greater than 3.5). I lectured a Physical Chemistry lab my senior year. I can't even remember how many thermo classes that I took to obtain both degrees.

Can you explain clearly, with examples, exactly how this author does not understand the Second Law of Thermodynamics? I would especially like to hear about the "hilarious and embarassing" parts.

[xmission]

Can you explain clearly, with examples, exactly how this author does not understand the Second Law of Thermodynamics? I would especially like to hear about the "hilarious and embarassing" parts.

For someone who doesn't know enough about this subject to make an informed decision, I see an awful lot of unanswered questions posed to the evolutionists. Most of the replies are insults only.

[thomaswest]

Order can arise spontaneously out of disorder: an example.

You can do this in your kitchen. Take 1 cup of water, 1 cup of oil (olive or mazola or motor will do), pour into cocktail shaker and shake vigorously for 1 minute. Pour into a clear glass container.

You will see a very great deal of disorder in the liquid. Leave undisturbed for 1-2 hours (doesn't matter if there is light or darkness).

Observe again: You will see that the oil has spontaneously ("miraculously"?) risen to the top, and the water is nicely separated below. ORDER has appeared.

Please explain this via your interpretation of the 2nd Law and entropy.

[hford02]

thanks for standing up for the professor... I was a proud evolutionist through 14 years of Catholic education and I was regularly penalized for my position... but after much reading and a better appreciation of mankind's real limitations I'm sure the Darwinism is plainly wrong and needs to be exposed for its flaws.

[Joe Republc]

"......creationists completely misunderstanding the Second Law of Thermodynamics in a hilarious and embarassing way.
I have a bachelor's degree in chemistry and a bachelor's degree in chemical engineering (both with GPAs greater than 3.5). I lectured a Physical Chemistry lab my senior year. I can't even remember how many thermo classes that I took to obtain both degrees.
Can you explain clearly, with examples, exactly how this author does not understand the Second Law of Thermodynamics? I would especially like to hear about the "hilarious and embarassing" parts. "

I'm with you here. I had physics and thermo over 20 years ago. The Second Law of Thermo always had me wondering how it could jibe with Darwinism at life's origins.

Aside from snide dismissals, I'm still waiting for a concise, reasonable explanation why one cannot bring up the Second Law of thermo when we are debating if life started from naturalistic, non-intelligent, random forces.

-- Joe

[Right Wing Professor]

I have a bachelor's degree in chemistry and a bachelor's degree in chemical engineering (both with GPAs greater than 3.5). I lectured a Physical Chemistry lab my senior year. I can't even remember how many thermo classes that I took to obtain both degrees. Can you explain clearly, with examples, exactly how this author does not understand the Second Law of Thermodynamics? I would especially like to hear about the "hilarious and embarassing" parts.

I can. The author says that the Second Law applies to each component of the total entropy separately, That is false, and since it amounts to a misinterpretation of a fundamental equation expressing a full differential in terms of partial differentials, it's a hilarious and embarrassing mistake for a math professor to make.