Federal Court Rejects “Separation of Church and State”

Family Policy Network ^ | 12/20/05 | FPN News

[ndt]

"We must continue to flail at the wall."

Option B is to actually understand the law and the reasoning behind it and try to get something done, but if flailing is all you want to do, then flail away my friend.

"With the 6th Court ruling, there is a crack in it--howbeit, tiny--nevertheless, a precious tiny crack."

It is not a crack. The 6th relied on the Lemon Test from Lemon v. Kurtzman (1971), they have no option but to adhere to it because it came from a superior court. The 6th has no power to overturn a Supreme Court decision.

"PRECEDENCE has been set." Yes it has, by Lemon v. Kurtzman (1971)

The only thing that will remove the Lemon Test is if it is overturned by SCOTUS or a constitutional amendment is passed.

[FredFlash]

NDT wrote:

Why stop with just the courthouses? Why not also place the 10 Commandments in just about every public place: public libraries, public schools, firehouses, municipal buildings, county nursing homes, football stadiums, etc. Seriously.

My comment is:

Lets not advocate the government placing the 10 Commandments in just about every public place. I don’t care for the idea of some government stooge giving me religious advice. A man cannot serve two masters and I acknowledge God and God alone as the authority in religious matters.

F. Slice

[ndt]

"Lets not advocate the government placing the 10 Commandments in just about every public place."

Actually I didn't write that, that was a quote from mumps I was commenting too.

[FredFlash]

Religion is wholly exempt from Civil Society's cognizance.

[FredFlash]

Religion is wholly exempt from Civil Society's cognizance.

[FredFlash]

The Counterfeit Christian's straw man arguments are truly tiresome and not constitutional, especially the "No National Religion" hogwash.

[Grampa Dave]

"Counterfeit Christian's" are causing problems in most of our churches today.

[FredFlash]

Counterfeit Christian = One who acknowledges government authority over his duties to the Creator

There is a young boy in a Texas public school who refuses to acknowledge the authority of the government to recommend that he has a duty to affirm a belief in "one Nation under God."

When the teacher leads the Pledge, he refuses to leave the room.

Instead, he turns his back on the teacher and raises his fist in silent protest to make it clear he does not acknowledge her authority over his religion.
The school Principle threatened to punish him but the School District Attorney said that was not a good idea because the boy was just expressing his religious belief that no man can serve two masters and God forbids us to give to Cesar what belongs to God.

[FredFlash]

"Let us leave prayer to be prompted by the devotion of the heart, and not the bidding of the State." Source is: Representative Gulian Verplanck of New York on the floor of the U. S. House of Representatives in 1832 objecting to the idea of Congress asking President Andrew Jackson to issue a Religious Proclamation recommending prayer and fasting.

The House took the advice and refused to ask the President to recommend prayer and fasting. Of course, Jackson had previously made it publicly known that any member of Congress that brought him such a foolish request would get his sorry butt kicked back to the Temple of Satan where the idea sprang from.