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In New National Ad, ACLU Calls for Investigation
ACLU ^ | ACLU

Posted on 12/29/2005 8:57:12 AM PST by mosquitobite

NEW YORK – In a full-page advertisement in today's New York Times, the American Civil Liberties Union intensified its call for a special counsel to be appointed to determine whether President George W. Bush violated federal wiretapping laws by authorizing illegal surveillance.

The ACLU said President Bush's actions were a clear violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which was passed by Congress in response to revelations that former President Nixon was using "national security" claims to spy on American citizens he considered his "enemies."

"President Nixon was not above the law and neither is President Bush," said ACLU Executive Director Anthony D. Romero. "President Bush cannot use a claim of seeking to preserve our nation to undermine the rules that serve as our foundation. The Attorney General, who may have been involved with the formulation of this policy, must appoint a special counsel to let justice be served."

The advertisement, as well as a similar ACLU ad that ran last Thursday, was spurred by revelations earlier this month that Bush authorized the National Security Agency (NSA) to conduct electronic surveillance of people within the United States, including U.S. citizens, without a warrant.

The text of today's advertisement compares the words of President Nixon and President Bush, both of whom denied allegations of illegal spying. Next to the image of Nixon, the advertisement says: "He lied to the American people and broke the law." Below that is an image of President Bush, with the words, "So did he."

The FISA wiretapping law made it a crime to intentionally engage in electronic surveillance without court approval. The president clearly violated the law when he authorized, and then repeatedly reauthorized, the NSA to spy on Americans without first obtaining a warrant, the ACLU said.

In a formal request sent last week to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, the ACLU called for the appointment of "an outside special counsel with the independence to investigate and prosecute any and all criminal acts committed by any member of the Executive Branch in the warrantless electronic surveillance of people in the United States over the past four years by the NSA," noting that "such crimes are serious felonies and they need to be fully and independently investigated."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aclu; ads; aidandcomfort; bush; bushhaters; bushlied; fisa; gorelickwall; homelandsecurity; impeachedx42; nsa; nyt; patriotleak; spying; treason
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Lovely.
1 posted on 12/29/2005 8:57:14 AM PST by mosquitobite
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To: mosquitobite

we paid for this???


2 posted on 12/29/2005 8:58:09 AM PST by fhlh (Polls are for strippers and liberal spinsters.)
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To: mosquitobite

And for my first witness, I would like to call...JAMIE GORELICK.


3 posted on 12/29/2005 9:00:15 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: mosquitobite

The ACLU is nothing but an organization of partisan hate mongers.


4 posted on 12/29/2005 9:01:02 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: fhlh

Naw, the Slimes probably gave them the page for free.


5 posted on 12/29/2005 9:01:20 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: mosquitobite

Oh, there will be an investigation. But it won't be into W. It will be into the leaker(s). Plamegate was a fraud. This leak was not...


6 posted on 12/29/2005 9:01:22 AM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: Over 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: mosquitobite

Funny, they left out Carter and Clintoon....must have been a "typo"


7 posted on 12/29/2005 9:01:42 AM PST by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: mosquitobite

Makes it pretty clear the ACLU has a political agenda, doesn't it? They're just another arm of the dems, and just as determined to ruin this country if it would bring them back into power. Their website asks for "complaints" from people about "issues," so I wrote to them asking them to take on the important issue of repeal of the 22nd Amendment, so we can re-elect GWB to a third, fourth, or even fifth term. Never heard back from them.


8 posted on 12/29/2005 9:02:34 AM PST by hsalaw
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To: hsalaw

There was never a question about it.


9 posted on 12/29/2005 9:03:54 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: mosquitobite

Yea this will help the Dems.


10 posted on 12/29/2005 9:04:29 AM PST by IonInsights
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To: hsalaw
Their name should be changed to DNCLD.

DNC Lap Dog

11 posted on 12/29/2005 9:05:34 AM PST by mosquitobite (As the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down.)
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To: mosquitobite

New York times is running this? Is it an editorial? Who else, besides their choir reads the NYT?


12 posted on 12/29/2005 9:06:40 AM PST by smith288 (Peace at all cost makes for tyranny free of charge...)
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To: fhlh
Did someone say ACLU?
Fundamentally, nothing has changed...

Roger Baldwin, the co-founder of the ACLU said: “I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately, for abolishing the state itself. … I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. I don’t regret being part of the communist tactic. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the communists wanted and I traveled the United Front road to get it.” In spite of Baldwin’s Communist leanings, President Jimmy Carter awarded him the Presidential Medal of Freedom on January 16, 1981.

Baldwin didn’t create the ACLU in a vacuum, he had plenty of help. A group of Communist Party officials, fellow travelers, anarchists and radicals joined Baldwin to found the ACLU in 1920.

13 posted on 12/29/2005 9:07:44 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: All

They forgot Clinton! Maybe they'll remember and revise their ad to include Clinton, right?


14 posted on 12/29/2005 9:08:13 AM PST by Sister_T (Kenneth Blackwell for Governor of Ohio!)
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To: mosquitobite
From my FR profile:

In 1972 Nixon was re-elected in one of the most massive landslide elections in U.S. political history, defeating George McGovern and garnering over 60% of the popular vote. He carried 49 of the 50 states, trailing only in Massachusetts.
Richard Nixon

The coup that overthrew President Nixon was largely orchestrated by Senator Edward Kennedy to reverse the left-repudiating 1972 election and serve Kennedy's presidential ambitions. This coup led to Communist victory in Vietnam, toppling dominoes in Southeast Asia, and encouragement to left revolutionary movements worldwide. It also allowed Kennedy and his liberal media allies to identify the tragic Vietnam War not with President John F. Kennedy, who committed the first 17,000 armed troops there, but with Republican President Nixon.
A Guide to the Political Left

15 posted on 12/29/2005 9:08:59 AM PST by Milhous (Sarcasm - the last refuge of an empty mind.)
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To: mosquitobite
In New National Ad, ACLU Calls for Investigation

I'd much prefer an investigation OF the ACLU.

16 posted on 12/29/2005 9:09:07 AM PST by Semi Civil Servant (The Main Stream Media: Al-Qaeda's most effective spy network.)
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To: hsalaw

Yep! Just an arm of the Democratic Party.


17 posted on 12/29/2005 9:11:25 AM PST by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches, hard to get rid of.>)
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To: mosquitobite

Only Teddy Kennedy is above the law..


18 posted on 12/29/2005 9:11:25 AM PST by steve8714
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To: mosquitobite

Please view me at An American Opinionist. It has insite to your ACLU post.


19 posted on 12/29/2005 9:11:29 AM PST by An American Opinionist
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To: mosquitobite
Bwahahahahaha! This is a good sign! The ACLU recognizes the downsizing/irrelevance of the NYT and is trying to come to the rescue.

Stoooopid ACLU, this just further damages the NYT.....Bwahahaha(stop to sip coffee)hahahahaaaaaa!

20 posted on 12/29/2005 9:11:52 AM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: mtbopfuyn

seriously,

do our tax dollars go to this org?


21 posted on 12/29/2005 9:11:52 AM PST by fhlh (Polls are for strippers and liberal spinsters.)
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To: mosquitobite

Also see me at blogger.com at Kansas bite's.


22 posted on 12/29/2005 9:12:36 AM PST by An American Opinionist
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To: mosquitobite

Beyond disgusting.

I'm telling everyone to REMEMBER that the DemLibs would NOT use the president's constitutional authority to protect us from terrorists in time of war. They are on record.


23 posted on 12/29/2005 9:13:32 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: mosquitobite

Apparently, the ACLU blood-sucking attoreys who dreamed this up don't read or listen carefully. Each time President Bush mentioned court orders for wiretaps, he referenced the government TALKING ABOUT THEM. Therefore, he wasn't lying.

If they're not talking about them, then there are no court orders. After all, it would be pointless to tap w/o a court order, and then turn around and TALK ABOUT IT.

These are all top secret, which means DON"T TALK ABOUT IT.

(Sorry, but I'm yelling on purpose.)


24 posted on 12/29/2005 9:13:46 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Brilliant

The ACLU is a Communist subversive organisation
engaged in sabotage against the american legal
system, for the aid and confort of foriegn enemies
of our contry....and most galling of all, being
paid/compensated/funded by the U.S. Government, to
do their treachery against the People and the
Constitution that we live by, by perverting it's
spirit and meaning.

Every one of them should face a military tribunal
as enemy agent provacatuers, Sabotuers, &
enemy combatants...and upon conviction, be summarily
executed for their treason. No appeals for these
two faced communist plague rats.
sabo


25 posted on 12/29/2005 9:14:11 AM PST by Baby Driver
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To: mosquitobite
Any comment from the Dems on this???

Shall we call Senator Jay Rockefeller as the first witness??

26 posted on 12/29/2005 9:14:51 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: mosquitobite; Jay777

ACLU PING!

http://stoptheaclu.com


27 posted on 12/29/2005 9:14:57 AM PST by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: mosquitobite

The problem is that groups such as the ACLU are hitting the airwaves and print media demanding an investigation into the Bush admin. Meanwhile Repubs are not demanding an investigation into WHO leaked this info. We need to get the message out loud and clear cause it doesn't look like our Congress critters are going to. Sign the petition calling for an investigation into the national security leaks! See my tagline for the link.


28 posted on 12/29/2005 9:17:09 AM PST by Chickenhawk Warmonger (Stop the Leaks Now! http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/investigatetheleaks/)
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To: add925

"Stoooopid ACLU"??????

*VERY Dangerous*,*Domestic Enemies* of our country, ACLU!!!!


29 posted on 12/29/2005 9:17:58 AM PST by Baby Driver
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To: Publius6961; Howlin
In spite of Baldwin’s Communist leanings, President Jimmy Carter awarded him the Presidential Medal of Freedom on January 16, 1981.

Why am I not surprised to hear that?

30 posted on 12/29/2005 9:18:43 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: mosquitobite

It is appropriate that an organization with no credibility publishes in a paper with less credibility.


31 posted on 12/29/2005 9:18:43 AM PST by depressed in 06 (Bolshecrat heros: a malingering traitor and a draft dodging rapist)
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To: mosquitobite

This should backfire on the ACLU and the rest of the seditious Democrats.


32 posted on 12/29/2005 9:19:14 AM PST by Ligeia
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To: fhlh

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1548713/posts?page=4#4


33 posted on 12/29/2005 9:23:20 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Publius6961

The ACLU vs. America: Exposing the agenda to redefine moral values --- Alan Sears

Great book for the truth about the ACLU.


34 posted on 12/29/2005 9:23:38 AM PST by oneofmany (Dems,MSM Imperium in imperio(5th Column))
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To: Mo1

thanks... just needed to confirm.

Damn shame...


35 posted on 12/29/2005 9:27:44 AM PST by fhlh (Polls are for strippers and liberal spinsters.)
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To: mosquitobite

When are we going to stop letting people get away with telling clear lies to attack our country and damage our security.

The ACLU should be sued in civil court for their lies and be made as fincially bankrupt as they are morally.

Their leadership should be charged with treason.


36 posted on 12/29/2005 9:30:09 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: mosquitobite

37 posted on 12/29/2005 9:33:08 AM PST by Bender2 (Even dirty old robots need love!)
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To: untrained skeptic

And everyoner at the NewYork Times that had
anything to do with their exposing US Natgional
Intelligence assets, sources, and methods. They
should be tried by military tribunal and
face immediate execution upon being found guilty.

"Kill 'em all!..Take their stuff!"

And *watch* all their friends and family members...
'Cause they are probably infected with the same
plague shit "ideology of traitors & perverts"
Socialist diseases, as the scum at the NYTs.


39 posted on 12/29/2005 9:37:51 AM PST by Baby Driver
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To: mosquitobite

My question for the ACLU: Since when do we need a court order to spy on our enemies during time of war?


40 posted on 12/29/2005 9:39:33 AM PST by USMC79to83
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To: fhlh

"Damn shame..."

Don't lose heart... http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/ACLU/

http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2005/12/28/ex-aclu-attorney-wants-you-to-stop-the-aclu/


42 posted on 12/29/2005 9:57:39 AM PST by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: eureka!

Actually, nothing will come of it, because Democrats are above the law...


43 posted on 12/29/2005 9:59:43 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: quefstar
How do you know the leak investigation is proceeding full speed? How do you know that a couple of NYT reporters and government leakers won't be frog-marched in-front of the cameras in a few weeks?

Remember that Bush is a poker player and doesn't telegraph his moves.

44 posted on 12/29/2005 10:02:41 AM PST by IonInsights
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To: mosquitobite

clearly the ACLU is engaging on a political hit piece. isn't this against the law?


45 posted on 12/29/2005 10:03:59 AM PST by Cinnamon
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To: RepCath; Liz; IronJack; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; Iris7; wkdaysoff; EdReform; Nick Danger; ...
PING!
46 posted on 12/29/2005 10:07:50 AM PST by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: mosquitobite

I hope they enjoyed my Christmas card. It looks like they got it.


47 posted on 12/29/2005 10:09:02 AM PST by b4its2late (Liberals are good examples of why some animals eat their young.)
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To: Publius6961

Good lord; that describes them even today, doesn't it?


48 posted on 12/29/2005 10:09:41 AM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: Cinnamon

There's the ACLU and something affiliated called the ACLU Foundation. That's how the ACLU gets around the rules.


49 posted on 12/29/2005 10:10:55 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mosquitobite

The New York Times and the ACLU...... America's number one enemies.


50 posted on 12/29/2005 10:13:08 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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