Posted on 12/30/2005 2:56:12 PM PST by Flavius
How was mao's domination of the chinese, it was much more bloody. Listen, we can argue circles around this issue all day but until china moves away from authoritarian communist one party rule the US and the West will veiw them with suspicion. You, as do alot of other nations in the region need to learn this thing called forgivness because hate and revenge held in for to long can become utterly destructive. I think if china and north korea wasnt so threatening to Japan that they would'nt want to fully rearm. Put yourselves in the Japanese shoes for a moment. The North Koreans already launched a missle over the Japanese islands and china has incurrsions into their territory with submarines and fighters that fly right up to the edge of Japanese airspace to probe defenses. Both are nuclear powers as well and this can make a nation want to build its defenses up.
"How was mao's domination of the chinese"
Mao caused the deaths of millions of Chinese people. But 95%+ those deaths were through gross economic mismanagement and an international embargo which resulted in famine. The CCP is vile, but they didnt systematically commit large-scale genocide or rape like the Japanese did. There's a HUGE difference between dying of starvation due to there being no fertilizer versus being bayonetted and used as target practice. With that said, however, the CCP is still a particularly disgusting regime. The Chinese government is vile but the Chinese culture is admirable. The Japanese government is fine, but the Japanese culture is evil.
Thus Japan is the far greater evil. Simply because culture is harder to change than government.
"Put yourselves in the Japanese shoes for a moment."
If Japan fully apologizes for their crimes and actually TEACH their children the truth about the past, then of course forgiveness is possible. Oh and they have to stop worshiping Tojo's ashes too. But they won't do that. They still believe, deep down inside, that what they did in WWII was right. Chew on that for a while.
Give me a break so you are saying North Korea launching a missle over Japan and chinas incursions is because they havent apologized. Total BS.Ok I am done here I see that I am dealing with an anti-japanese zealot and they're no reason to try and debate with you.
Chinese Culture was erased by Mao Minions, what remains is property of the Communist State.
Given the choice you would perfer Communism over democracy?
That's the choice here, try to remember it.
Anyone who has traveled to that country knows that it's not really a communist state. Authoritarian state is a much more fitting term.
And no, Mao has certainly not erased Chinese culture. If it did, we wouldn't be seeing such a drastic realignment of smaller nations in asia as we're seeing.
the Japanese has given a full apology and tried to give compensation for what took place it was Mao that refused to accept it.
full apology?
No written apology has every been given by the Japanese to any of their victim countries except for the USA. We extracted it from them on the day of their surrender. That is a FACT.
I think I've said all that needs to be said here. Some Americans apparently doesn't seem to care the least bit about genocide and atrocities until it happens to them or their relatives. But I guess that could be the case with most people.
They don't give a rats ass about how Chinese and Koreans have suffered. By aligning US with Japan, we are alienating ourselves from rest of Asia and pushing every other democracie toward aligning with China.
If McCarther ever cared for the Chinese, he wouldn't have let the unit that did medical experiments on live humans (including dissecting people who are still alive without anathesia) go without a trial -- he did that in exchange for medical data. It's no accident that US pharmaceudicals became the world's best in 10 years after WWII because of the data they got from Japan + Nazi Germany.
Simply put, justice hasn't been served. In Asia, 60 years is a very short time given the history goes back 4000 years, it's a drop in the bucket.
The CCP is bad and vile, but if war was to break out over Taiwan and Japan gets involved, 100% of the population will align themselves with the CCP against Japan. Hence, by aligning US with Japan, it's actually going to hurt US's goal toward Taiwan and Taiwan is nothing more than a sacrifice at this point.
They have not taught the children the truth about WWII. That's the point here -- and you have the prime minister and half the parliament go worshipping at a shrine that houses war criminals too.
Imagine if German Chancellor go to a shrine where Hitler was enshrined.
Here's this tidbit I found today:
From M-5 Rocket
There are reports that the M-5 design was modeled after the LG-118A Peacekeeper ICBM which has similar dimensions and payload, and is also a three-stage solid fuel rocket. The M-5 design could certainly be weaponised quickly.
The myth that Japan has not apologized for its actions in WWII is just that a myth.
In 1972 an official Japanese communique stated:
"The Japanese [are] keenly conscious of the responsibility for the serious damage that Japan causes in the past to the Chinese people through war and deeply reproaches itself."
1982 Prime Minister Suzuki said:
"I am painfully aware of the responsibility for inflicting serious damages during the past war. We need to recognize criticism that (Japan's occupation) was invasion."
In 1984 Prime Minister Nakasone told the South Korean President:
"(Japan) brought enormous difficulty to your country and your people. I feel a deep sense of regret about that"
1990 Emperor Akihito said:
"I can't help feeling the deepest regret when I think of the suffering of the people . . . during this unfortunate period brought by my country."
1990 Prime Minister Kaifu said:
"I humbly feel deep regret and express forthright apology for the fact that the people of the Korean peninsula experienced unbearable anguish and grief because of our country's action."
In 1992 Emperor Akihito, while visiting China, said:
"I express my regret and contrition for what my country did to the people of China."
In 1993 Prime Minister said at a press conference:
"The last war was war of Japanese aggression."
1994 Prime Minister Murayama said during a visit to Korea:
"I'd like to express my apology from the bottom of my heart and deep regret seriously."
In 1995 Prime Minister Murayama said:
"In the not-to-distant past, Japan, through its colonial rule and aggression, caused tremendous damage and suffering to the people of many countries, particularly tose of Asia. In the hope that no such mistake will be made in the future, I regard, in the spirit of humanity, these irrefutable facts of history and express here once again my feelings of deep remorse and state my heartfelt apology."
In 2001 Foreign Minister Tanak said:
"We have never forgotten that Japan caused tremendous damage and suffering to the people of many countries during the last war. Many lost their precious lives and many were wounded. The war has left an incurable scar on many people, including former prisoners of war. Facing these facts of history in a spirit of humility, I reaffirm today our feelings of deep remorse and heartfelt apology."
In 2001 Prime Minister Koizumi said:
"I offer heartfelt apology and condolences to the Chinese victims of Japanese aggression"
He also laid a wreath a a memorial to Chinese war dead and signed the visitors book with characters asking for "forgiveness".
The above omits numerous other apologies to other countries like South Korea and the Philippines.
read more here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1382665/posts
I don’t know why pganini is still on Freerepublic.
That was McCarther's decision in order to keep the peace with the Japanese after the war. To this day I agree with his decision. Please try to understand what honor means to the Japanese people, once you do you will understand why this decision was necessary.
Sorry, it's just not a proper military propaganda video without the goose stepping. The music was kind of lame too.
P.S. Am I the only one who happens to like the "Army of one" ad campaign?
Yes.
It is a ridiculous statement too even suggesting an 'army of one.'
An army that fights together as a team wins together as a team, conversely any army that does not fight as a team will always lose.
I think hollywood made up this ad campaign.
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