ABC's Bogus "Pope Joan" Story Also Hocked Debunked "Rule of Thumb" Myth

Newsbusters.org ^ | 30 December 2005 | Dave Pierre

[x5452]

Papal infailbility ping.

[VOA]

bump for publicity

[Obadiah]

What a crock. Where is the "news analysis" of muslim customs? Oh, that's right, the leftist media has declared war on the (mostly) white, middle-class male.

Same old lies and disinformation. Men beat their wives using the "rule of thumb" measure.

Calls to the domestic abuse shelters increases during the Super Bowl.

Do you see a pattern here?

[Oztrich Boy]

The effect of the Cadever Synod backfired on Stephen. Formosus' supporters, appalled by Stephen's macabre trial, rebelled. He was deposed, imprisoned and strangled to death."

If the Cadever Synod failed at the box office, why did Sergius III do a remake nine years later? (This time Formosus got chucked in the Tiber at the end, and still they recovered the body.)

[CharacterCounts]

If you are an adult male, take a ruler and measure across the widest part of your thumb. It should be almost exactly 1 inch.

Just a clue as to where "rule of thumb" came from.

[x5452]

I am shocked at the notion of digging up popes for trial, and the notion that anyone who did this was still pope and capable of speaking ex cathedra makes me laugh at the possibility of union between the Orthodox and Rome.

Rome should have distanced itself from this years ago.

[Mount Athos]

What more are they supposed to do to distance themselves. The pope who led the trial was promptly imprisoned and killed. The next pope annuled the verdict only months later. Then a year later the pope forbade any future trials of dead people.

Also the dead pope accused at trial really had invited the Franks to invade Italy.

[festus]

So liberals are all upset about people who beat their wives hundreds of years ago but do not care that muslims beat, and kill, their wives regularly in todays world. Shows you the type of mind set they really have.

The answer is simple. Complaining about Moslems beating their wives doesn't hurt the Christian church any so they have no interest in it.

[Phsstpok]

and next week Diane Sawyer has an explosive expose on the secrets of the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion. She blows the lid off of this previously unheard of secret plan for world domination by the joooos!

[Oztrich Boy]

Then a year later the pope forbade any future trials of dead people.

Which doesn't explain why Sergius III tried dead Formosus again several years later

Also the dead pope accused at trial really had invited the Franks to invade Italy.

Well that was more or less tradition.
Stephen III did it in 753.
Leo III did it
And in the 12th Century, the Normans would be invited in (the Franks having become the effete French in the meantime)

[x5452]

If thy can still claim ex cathedra after such a perfect realization of the fact popes are human and that primacy is a matter of honor not dogma, they have yet to distance themselves.

[Mount Athos]

If thy can still claim ex cathedra after such a perfect realization of the fact popes are human and that primacy is a matter of honor not dogma, they have yet to distance themselves.

Ex cathedra doesn't deny that popes are human, it only claims they are infallible when they are specifically invoking ex cathedra -- Which has only happened twice in all of history I believe? It doesn't even deny that popes can make lots of theological errors when they aren't invoking ex cathedra, which they almost never are. Pope Honorius made some whoppers for example (but so did lots of patriarchs).

Ex Cathedra doesn't say that popes are perfect and won't make embarassing mistakes and even do really terrible horrible things. They just can't do it while invoking ex cathedra, which again has only ever happened twice.

I reject the invention of Ex Cathedra by Vatican I, but I wish people wouldn't exaggerate what it is.

[Havoc]

Ex Cathedra is a crutch to allow people to compartmentalize and hide from errors that can't happen if infallibility existed in the first place. It is the curtain behind which the wizard stands. The nutty case for ex cathedra as it exists today is largely a modern retelling of the story to save face. In practical application, history tells a much different story. But, as with liberals, let's not let the facts get in the way of anything.

[Havoc]

Primacy wasn't about honor, it was about political power and using sophistry through a religious forum to achieve it. That really is the bottom line. To protect power, they doctrinalized their political propaganda. No mystery and it isn't terribly original.

[Uncle Vlad]

So liberals are all upset about people who beat their wives hundreds of years ago but do not care that Muslims beat, and kill, their wives regularly in todays world.

Thank You!!!

[reed13]

mine is 13/16ths and I’m 44....go figure it’s an estimate ... a ‘rule of thumb’ ha