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To: Tarpon
The MSM funny farm is going to get their wish -- Jail the editors

Jail the editors and fine the corporation. I believe that the "publishing" of information that is damaging to national security is subject to a sentence of 10 years maximum and/or fine.

Considering the damage, it's reasonable to believe that Pinch and friends could be spending 10 years and the stockholders of the Times could very well be holding junk bonds by mid-year.

49 posted on 12/31/2005 6:14:33 AM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: McGavin999
Considering the damage, it's reasonable to believe that Pinch and friends could be spending 10 years and the stockholders of the Times could very well be holding junk bonds by mid-year.

Speaking of damage, but if a terrorist attack occurs, and it is shown that the wiretap program could have prevented it, could the Times be sued for wrongful death?

53 posted on 12/31/2005 6:16:57 AM PST by Steel Wolf (If the Founders had wanted the President to be spying on our phone calls, they would have said so!)
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To: McGavin999

Nothing could be better for the US than the New York Times and Washington Post go out of business.


57 posted on 12/31/2005 6:19:17 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: McGavin999
Jail the editors and fine the corporation.

IF there has been a violation of 798, the penalty is more than a fine. Note the mandaotry nature of the recitation in the statute ...

§ 798. Disclosure of classified information
Release date: 2005-08-03

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information-- ...

(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government ...

(b) As used in subsection (a) of this section--
The term "communication intelligence" means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients ...

(d)
(1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law--
(A) any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B) any of the person's property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1). ...

18 USC 798

The NYT was a named party in the Pentagon Papers case, which touch expressly on the ramifications of a violation of 18 USC 798. You can bet your house that the NYT has concluded that publication of the existence of NSA surveillance is not a breach of the statute (I agree, because the exsistence of keyword searching was disclosed to the public in Senate hearings and in published court cases), and that extending that knowledge to the use of NSA facilities to target certain people in the US is not meant to be covered by the act.

I haven't researched that argument, but would enjoy seeing it litigated. And charging the NYT does not depend on any investigation - the publication "speaks for itself," and has indisputably occurred. The only question is whetrher or not the publication is in violation of the statute.

If it is, the NYT will be giving up printing presses.

100 posted on 12/31/2005 6:46:18 AM PST by Cboldt
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