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To: george76

Practically speaking, the tax rate should vary and not be a fixed value, but here is how it should work.

When the economy is good, the tax rate should slowly increase until the economy starts to slow down at which point it should start to slowly drop.

Higher taxes during a good economy will increase revenue, but increasing them without concern for the impact on the economy (as Clinton did) will result in a huge gap when the economy starts to fail and taxes continue to rise.

Much like Greenspan uses interest rate to drive the economy and inflation, tax rate could be used. It just has to be understood that lowering taxes stimulates the economy and raising taxes can slow the economy from overheating.


4 posted on 12/31/2005 9:00:55 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: Paloma_55

Unfortunately, the optimum point on the Laffer curve can only be found by trial and error.


5 posted on 12/31/2005 9:04:16 AM PST by CPOSharky (Taxation WITH representation kinda sucks too.)
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To: Paloma_55

The tax rate should be fixed. It should be set at a flat 20% rate.


6 posted on 12/31/2005 9:05:06 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Paloma_55

If the feds collect enough money to fund pork barrel projects then they have collected too much. THe less money they have the better. I would love to be able to direct my tax money to the budget items I care about; 50% military and national security and 50% to lock down the borders.


8 posted on 12/31/2005 9:06:17 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Paloma_55
Practically speaking, the tax rate should vary and not be a fixed value, but here is how it should work.

But the problem with that is that it isn't "free" to change the tax rates. Compliance costs change, and the benefits that come from the business community's reliance on a fixed rate diminish. The people who make economic decisions based on tax are less likely to act when there's another variable in the equation.
19 posted on 12/31/2005 9:15:36 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Paloma_55

The problem comes in with getting ANYONE to cut taxes.


34 posted on 12/31/2005 10:03:34 AM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: Paloma_55
"When the economy is good, the tax rate should slowly increase until the economy starts to slow down at which point it should start to slowly drop."

This is only true if your objective is to maximize returns to the government, a hideous idea in any context. The government should be put on a strict money diet and deprived of all but truly essential funds. Giving money to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to a 15 year-old

41 posted on 12/31/2005 10:28:57 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: Paloma_55
It would be impossible to adjust tax rates and the revenue taken from them based upon fluctuations in the health of the economy in a timely manner. It would wind up with an endless wave of strength and weakness from one industry to the next and would be very unstable.

Also, do we really want the government that involved in determining what is a healthy economy and at what point they want to turn it around? That would put elected officials in the position of controlling a dial that they will ultimately use at re-election time.
47 posted on 12/31/2005 10:40:27 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Paloma_55

"Practically speaking, the tax rate should vary and not be a fixed value, but here is how it should work."

Perhaps you meant to say, "impractically speaking.." Politics would never act so precisely, so this idea is utterly IMPRACTICAL.

Furthermore, it is wrong. The function of tax rates is not to regulate the economy. It is to provide resources for legitimate government functions: defense and justice.

One of our problems is that tax money is used for all sorts of transfer payments, breaking the nexus between provider and spender, and thereby irrationalizing the deployment of resources. Government expenditures often make certain problems worse, as in the field of education, where government control has diluted what is taught, and has acted to drive up college expenses. It has encouraged a whole industry engaged in keeping young people out of the word of adult responsibility. Much of our "spoiled child" culture is driven by this system.

Anyway, the Laffer curve does work. It is a mixed blessing, though, if it gives the government more money.


55 posted on 12/31/2005 10:57:52 AM PST by docbnj
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To: Paloma_55

Tax rates should decline in a good economy, because the amount of money collected should be minimized at all times. In a good economy, the demands on government should be less, so revenue collected should correspondingly decline.

There is no reason the government should be interested in maximizing revenue. The government should collect the minimum amount necessary to carry out necessary government functions in a way that does as little damage to the economy as possible.

Thus endeth the lesson.


80 posted on 12/31/2005 12:50:34 PM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Paloma_55
Practically speaking, the tax rate should vary and not be a fixed value, but here is how it should work.

Actually, I am a fan of downsizing Government and spending less. Period.

128 posted on 01/02/2006 4:31:53 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Paloma_55

Why do you assume that the government should be able to take as much from the economy as it can without doing damage? Why shouldn't the government be limited to only taking as much as is needed to perform necessary functions?


134 posted on 01/02/2006 9:24:28 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Paloma_55
Practically speaking, the tax rate should vary and not be a fixed value, but here is how it should work.

The aim of the Laffer Curve was not to maximize gov't revenue from taxes, but for the Federal government to work from the recognition that people change their economic behavior in response to taxes, and that the biggest danger of taxes is that it depresses economic activity.

In that spirit, gov't should not be trying to fine tune the economy by constantly jiggering the tax rate, but rather to set as low a tax rate as possible just as long it collects enough money to carry out its essential functions, and set as simple a structure as possible so as not to try to favor one economic activity over another. Let the people decide.

Ultimately, IMO, the gov't could borrow all the money it needs to operate, and tax just enough to service its debt.
136 posted on 01/02/2006 9:52:02 AM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: Paloma_55
Practically speaking, the tax rate should vary and not be a fixed value,

Practically speaking, FedGov should restrict spending to just those things that the Constitution actually authorizes, and let the taxpayers keep their damn money

I disagree with the underlying concept that taxes should be at a level which maximizes government revenue

148 posted on 01/04/2006 4:10:11 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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