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They'd take Halifax (then we'd kill Kenny) [U.S. invasion plans for Canada]
The Globe and Mail ^ | 12/31/05 | SHAWN MCCARTHY

Posted on 12/31/2005 11:02:13 AM PST by doc30

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Has Canadian-American relations reached a new low? Note - plans are from 1930! However, replace 'Briton' with 'China' or 'Russia' and the plan has some modern merits. Instead of Canada allowing a foreign invasion through a foreign alliance. Canada, with it;s lack of military and security, may be an unwilling accomplice to potential adversaries in the future. This should serve as a warning on what might (big might) be in store for Canada if the security of the U.S. were severely threatened from the north. Protection of Canada would not be a tidy, political affair. It would really be potection of the U.S.
1 posted on 12/31/2005 11:02:16 AM PST by doc30
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Canada, identified as Crimson, would be invaded to prevent the Britons from using it as a staging ground to attack the United States.

They've done that twice, during the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812.

2 posted on 12/31/2005 11:05:29 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: doc30

Good point.


3 posted on 12/31/2005 11:11:21 AM PST by RoadTest (Religion never saved a soul - that's Jesus' job.)
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From NRO -

"ATTACK PLAN RED, EH? [Jonah Goldberg]

Lots and lots of this sort of email coming in:

Jonah:

War Plan Red has been known for years. Although the plan was declassified in 1974, the 1935 Army war games were fairly open that they were based on war with Great Britain involving an invasion of Canada. Every couple of years, it gets pulled out, usually by a left wing Canadian professor who wants to use it to tar Canadian conservatives as making common cause with the hated Americans. About 8 years ago, it was even argued that the location of Fort Drum in upstate New York was to prepare for an invasion of Canada (instead of being a pork barrel project by Senator D'Amato).

It is no surprise it comes up now. Canada is in the midst of a general election and the liberals are performing badly. This could be 3-5% to the Liberals (or at least away from the Tories).


Posted at 03:14 PM"

http://corner.nationalreview.com/05_12_25_corner-archive.asp#085632


4 posted on 12/31/2005 11:11:53 AM PST by frankjr
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To: doc30
Blame Canada
5 posted on 12/31/2005 11:11:56 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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To: doc30

We shoulda done this long ago! I love it!


6 posted on 12/31/2005 11:12:57 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Brilliant

The US invaded Canada during the Revolution and 1812 wars too.

I think that the prevelence of Canadians in medical clinics in the northern tier states is a cunning plan to gather intelligence on the US.

Then again, it could be a mark of the failure of the Socialist Canadian pseudo-healthcare system.


7 posted on 12/31/2005 11:13:45 AM PST by Donald Meaker (You don't drive a car looking through the rear view mirror, but you do practice politics that way.)
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Interesting but why should the UK have wanted to invade in (19)20s and 30s ?


8 posted on 12/31/2005 11:14:40 AM PST by 1066AD
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In 1940, the United States and Canada came up with plans on what to do if the Nazis should capture the British Isles. The plan involved urging the remnants of the Royal Fleet to head toward Iceland or Bermuda, where joint US-Canadian forces would help establish forward operating bases, as well as securing control of all other British colonies and assets throughout the world.

When Churchill found out about these plans, he was rather ticked, but I can see where having things worked out in advance would have been a great help.

10 posted on 12/31/2005 11:16:45 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson
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We dont want Canada, too many liberals, lousy health care, that is overpriced, we sure dont want to have a bunch of french speaking prisoners waving white flags at us all the time.


11 posted on 12/31/2005 11:17:46 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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We'll simply move in with tanks ala Grenada and play Celine Dion tapes full blast until Canada surrenders.


12 posted on 12/31/2005 11:18:07 AM PST by hershey
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No blood for syrup!


13 posted on 12/31/2005 11:19:14 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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Oops, that'd be Celine Dion CD's. Or do I mean DVD's. Whatever. Canadians would scream for mercy and run up the white flag.


14 posted on 12/31/2005 11:19:48 AM PST by hershey
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Judging from the strife between the US and Canada today and the way the Canadians have kissed up to the Chinese of late, this plan needs to be updated. The American Hating Socialists, who run Canada these days, are definitely capable of betraying the United States. The only ingredient they are missing is courage. if another power such as the PRC can supply both the power and courage, Canada would sell us out in a heartbeat.
15 posted on 12/31/2005 11:21:47 AM PST by wmileo
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During the Civil War, Irish-Americans in the North planned to capture Canada as a retaliation against British support for the Confederacy. I think they were called 'Finnian troops' or something.
16 posted on 12/31/2005 11:24:47 AM PST by Skylab
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Aha, we see that only years before, the Canajuns were talking peace while they too were preparing for war...
17 posted on 12/31/2005 11:28:09 AM PST by mikrofon (BTW, they can have Buffalo now if they want.)
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Interesting but why should the UK have wanted to invade in (19)20s and 30s ?

Why not? One scenario would be a commie takeover in the House of Commons and an alliance with the Russians of the time.... The Red Scare of the 20s would have been in full swing.

At any rate, it always makes good military sense (and it's good training) to make invasion plans for your neighbors, no matter how unlikely it'd be to have to exercise them.

18 posted on 12/31/2005 11:28:54 AM PST by r9etb
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"They've done that twice, during the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812."


Actually three times, if you count the Confederate raid against St. Albans, Vermont which was launched from Canada.

It was alleged the Canadians were in cahoots (Great Britain being an unofficial ally and supporter of the Confederacy). Canada denied this, but refused to take any action against the raiders.


19 posted on 12/31/2005 11:30:42 AM PST by kaehurowing
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Nobody down here gives a damn about Canada. Certainly not enough to go to war with it.


20 posted on 12/31/2005 11:30:49 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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