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Sniper shot that took out an insurgent killer from three quarters of a mile
telegraph ^ | 01/01/2006 | Toby Harnden in Ramadi

Posted on 12/31/2005 3:04:24 PM PST by Flavius

Gazing through the telescopic sight of his M24 rifle, Staff Sgt Jim Gilliland, leader of Shadow sniper team, fixed his eye on the Iraqi insurgent who had just killed an American soldier.

His quarry stood nonchalantly in the fourth-floor bay window of a hospital in battle-torn Ramadi, still clasping a long-barrelled Kalashnikov. Instinctively allowing for wind speed and bullet drop, Shadow's commander aimed 12 feet high.

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A single shot hit the Iraqi in the chest and killed him instantly. It had been fired from a range of 1,250 metres, well beyond the capacity of the powerful Leupold sight, accurate to 1,000 metres.

"I believe it is the longest confirmed kill in Iraq with a 7.62mm rifle," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, 28, who hunted squirrels in Double Springs, Alabama from the age of five before progressing to deer - and then people.

"He was visible only from the waist up. It was a one in a million shot. I could probably shoot a whole box of ammunition and never hit him again."

Later that day, Staff Sgt Gilliland found out that the dead soldier was Staff Sgt Jason Benford, 30, a good friend.

Iraq factfile

The insurgent was one of between 55 and 65 he estimates that he has shot dead in less than five months, putting him within striking distance of sniper legends such as Carlos Hathcock, who recorded 93 confirmed kills in Vietnam. One of his men, Specialist Aaron Arnold, 22, of Medway, Ohio, has chalked up a similar tally.

"It was elating, but only afterwards," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, recalling the September 27 shot. "At the time, there was no high-fiving. You've got troops under fire, taking casualties and you're not thinking about anything other than finding a target and putting it down. Every shot is for the betterment of our cause."

All told, the 10-strong Shadow sniper team, attached to Task Force 2/69, has killed just under 200 in the same period and emerged as the US Army's secret weapon in Ramadi against the threat of the hidden Improvised Explosive Device (IED) or roadside bomb - the insurgency's deadliest tactic.

Above the spot from which Staff Sgt Gilliland took his record shot, in a room at the top of a bombed-out observation post which is code-named Hotel and known jokingly to soldiers as the Ramadi Inn, are daubed "Kill Them All" and "Kill Like you Mean it".

On another wall are scrawled the words of Senator John McCain: "America is great not because of what she has done for herself but because of what she has done for others."

The juxtaposition of macho slogans and noble political rhetoric encapsulates the dirty, dangerous and often callous job the sniper has to carry out as an integral part of a campaign ultimately being waged to help the Iraqi people.

With masterful understatement, Lt Col Robert Roggeman, the Task Force 2/69 commander, conceded: "The romantic in me is disappointed with the reception we've received in Ramadi," a town of 400,000 on the banks of the Euphrates where graffiti boasts, with more than a degree of accuracy: "This is the graveyard of the Americans".

"We're the outsiders, the infidels," he said. "Every time somebody goes out that main gate he might not come back. It's still a running gun battle."

Highly effective though they are, he worries about the burden his snipers have to bear. "It's a very God-like role. They have the power of life and death that, if not held in check, can run out of control. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

"Every shot has to be measured against the Rules of Engagement [ROE], positive identification and proportionality."

Staff Sgt Gilliland explains that his Shadow team operates at the "borderlines" of the ROE, making snap judgements about whether a figure in the crosshairs is an insurgent or not.

"Hunters give their animals respect," he said, spitting out a mouthful of chewing tobacco. "If you have no respect for what you do you're not going to be very good or you're going to make a mistake. We try to give the benefit of the doubt.

"You've got to live with it. It's on your conscience. It's something you've got to carry away with you. And if you shoot somebody just walking down the street, then that's probably going to haunt you."

Although killing with a single shot carries an enormous cachet within the sniper world, their most successful engagements have involved the shooting a up to 10 members of a single IED team.

"The one-shot-one-kill thing is one of beauty but killing all the bad dudes is even more attractive," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, whose motto is "Move fast, shoot straight and leave the rest to the counsellors in 10 years" and signs off his e-mails with "silent souls make.308 holes".

Whether Shadow team's work will ultimately make a difference in Iraq is open to question. No matter how many insurgents they shoot, there seems no shortage of recruits to plant bombs.

Col John Gronski, the overall United States commander in Ramadi, said there could not be a military solution. "You could spend years putting snipers out and killing IED emplacers and at the political level it would make no difference."

As they prepare to leave Iraq, however, Staff Sgt Gilliland and his men hope that they have bought a little more time for the country's politicians to fix peace and stability in their sights.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armysnipers; bang; banglist; getjubu; gilliland; guncontrol; gwot; harnden; ied; iraq; leupold; oif; shadow; sniper; team; tobyharnden; wot
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To: Flavius

Instinctively allowing for wind speed and bullet drop, Shadow's commander aimed 12 feet high.

Uh, toby, it's called training.
If he didn't know what his bullet was going to do,
he shouldn't have been out there, ie; he knew how many
clicks to come up, and how many over for the wind and
how to tell what the distance was, he didn't look and say
mmmmmm ah guess it's about 1232 yards.

Bahh writers.


21 posted on 12/31/2005 3:24:52 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Flavius

Damn! That's a long ways for a .308.


22 posted on 12/31/2005 3:25:16 PM PST by dljordan
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To: Flavius

I love my .308 but am happy with a saucer sized 20 round (peepsight) group at 100 yds.


23 posted on 12/31/2005 3:25:25 PM PST by n230099
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24 posted on 12/31/2005 3:28:02 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Flavius









25 posted on 12/31/2005 3:34:03 PM PST by Milhous (Sarcasm - the last refuge of an empty mind.)
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To: Flavius
Staff Sgt Gilliland, 28, who hunted squirrels in Double Springs, Alabama from the age of five before progressing to deer - and then people.

I bet those words make liberals just start to vibrate.

Good shooting and keep it up!

LVM

26 posted on 12/31/2005 3:34:19 PM PST by LasVegasMac (The only thing slowing me down is the A**hole in front of me!)
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To: Flavius
Private York of WWI comes to mind! Good for him!
27 posted on 12/31/2005 3:35:09 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: n230099

You need the AQT, those 20 rounds should all be within
four inches at 100 yds, one inch at 25 yds.

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on it.

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28 posted on 12/31/2005 3:35:11 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Flavius

This is not really on-topic but after seeing this picture I just have to say I really hate this whole backwards-American-flag-patch thing. I understand the reasoning for facing the flag backwards when it's on the right shoulder (though I still don't really like it and think it looks silly. A soldier is not always moving briskly forward anyway, making the backwards flag make sense in the convoluted "that's the way it would be blowing if it was a real flag" kinda way. Sometimes he's just standing still. And when I see pictures of Iraqi kids looking at that backwards flag on a soldier's shoulder it just rubs me the wrong way. Is a whole generation in another country going to think that's what our flag looks like?) and it's things like this that bring home why. Once you manufacture all those backwards flags they'll be backwards wherever they're placed, even when velcroed on the front of the vest as this one is.

I guess I just don't like seeing a backwards flag. It just strikes me wrong. Our flag is so beautiful as it is.

[saquin getting off soapbox]

(One more thing... aren't snipers supposed to be kept kinda anonymous?)

29 posted on 12/31/2005 3:36:43 PM PST by saquin
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To: tet68

thanks for that info


30 posted on 12/31/2005 3:36:51 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
I think there has been too many HollyWierd movies about vets going crazy when they get home. I'm sure that the bad guys aren't worring about having "post traumatic shock syndrome" doing their job.

I agree. There are something like 400,000 veterans currently receiving disability payments for "Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome" at a cost of over four billion dollars to the tax payers. The number of veterans applying for this has quadrupled in the last few years. I don't mean to denigrate anyone's service.....but I don't recall anyone from my father's generation belly-aching to the point where they were unable to hold a job.

31 posted on 12/31/2005 3:40:14 PM PST by Godebert
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To: GarySpFc
"Nah, it was a great shot.

Still, I like the snipers using the .50 caliber Barrets. They really reach out and get ya."


I have a relative, (name withheld by his request), that has completed sniper training recently. I received a fax of a letter from his commander stating he acquired the longest qualifying shot EVER in sniper training. He was using a .50
32 posted on 12/31/2005 3:41:31 PM PST by DocRock
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To: Flavius

Did anyone else also notice that this "insurgent" who had just killed an American soldier was headquarted in a HOSPITAL. I don't want to hear anymore crying from liberals that the big bad U.S. military is targeting peaceful hospitals and ambulances. This is the kind of s**t that has been going on for 3 years now, with the terrorists using hospitals, ambulances, etc.


33 posted on 12/31/2005 3:46:17 PM PST by saquin
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To: 68skylark

Obviously, this writer has learned his craft. It is not something we are accustomed to when reading the drivel printed in US papers.


34 posted on 12/31/2005 3:47:53 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
I think there has been too many HollyWierd movies about vets going crazy when they get home.

Not new. In 1937 I saw a movie called "They Gave Him a Gun" starring Spencer Tracy and Franchot Tone. Two World War 1 soldiers had distinctly different reactions to their weaponry after discharge, with one shootin' up the place.

I was young but recognized propaganda when I saw it. Besides that, everyone I knew in Southwest Oklahoma had pistols or rifles and knew how to use them.

35 posted on 12/31/2005 3:48:50 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Flavius

The photo gives far too much info for my comfort zone. I can't imagine the U.S. military wanting that out but who knows.


36 posted on 12/31/2005 3:50:08 PM PST by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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To: Flavius
"Move fast, shoot straight and leave the rest to the counsellors in 10 years"

truer words were never spoken...there should have been an amen at the end of them

You gotta survive to have PTSD....:)

37 posted on 12/31/2005 3:51:20 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: al baby
I agree. Gone is his anonymity. It's terrific to know we have snipers dropping these a$$holes. However, I do not think it is in the best interest of the mission or of the individual snipers to disclose their names.

Didn't the north Vietnamese offer a reward for the head of Hathcock after his name appeared in a Stars & Stripes article?
38 posted on 12/31/2005 3:51:59 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: Flavius

Fortuna was with him that day.


39 posted on 12/31/2005 3:53:17 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: saquin

Is that an M4 with suppressor he is holding? He must do some in close work,night infiltration type engagements.Pretty scary job,hope they stay safe.


40 posted on 12/31/2005 3:56:49 PM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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