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To: tortoise
What kind of insanity would lead a person to believe that the jihadis can win in the US? How much liberty will you have should winged pigs win in the US?

They're taking over Europe without hardly firing a shot. I bet you never thought that would happen. I also bet you never thought they would fly planes into buildings either...did ya? A few well placed bombs here, taking out a few more thousand Americans, and Pelosi, kennedy, kerry, schummer, the old media, and all the other leftist and terrorist sympathizers in this country would try to hand this country to them on a silver platter.

They are terrorist, they spread terror.

Listen to the calls and prevent another 9-11 or something more catastrophic. All my freedoms won't do crap for me if I'm DEAD.

248 posted on 01/02/2006 4:00:40 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

What I find amazing is the carping over the "loss of freedom" when we are at war, when the reality is that we have lost more freedom with election law changes and over religious expression at Christmas than we have during the entire war on terror.


250 posted on 01/02/2006 4:13:17 PM PST by SunSetSam
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To: pbrown
They're taking over Europe without hardly firing a shot.

Yeah, well, that is Europe. This is America. If the Europeans can't keep their country, then there was nothing there worth keeping. It is a battle of character and constitution -- he who has the biggest balls will win (metaphorically). Americans still clank when they walk.

Though some days I do wonder. There are an awful lot of pathetic timid souls in America, as is in evidence on this thread. Living is inherently dangerous -- we all die sometime -- and people need to stop pretending like they can change this fact if they just give the government more power.

I also bet you never thought they would fly planes into buildings either...did ya?

Oh, I've been expecting far worse for decades. This kind of thing is going to happen in the real world. An American is many orders of magnitude more likely to die at the hands of another American, intentionally or otherwise, than at the hands of a jihadi jackass. The jihadis are statistical noise, and should be treated as such. Smack'em hard if you happen to find them, but don't reorganize the bloody world on their account.

A few well placed bombs here, taking out a few more thousand Americans, and Pelosi, kennedy, kerry, schummer, the old media, and all the other leftist and terrorist sympathizers in this country would try to hand this country to them on a silver platter.

The craven left-wing speaks for themselves, not for your average American. Americans are venal, but nowhere near as venal as those talking hand puppets. The psychotic left can do quite a bit of damage, but they do not have the power to hand this country over to the jihadis, even in their best wet dreams.

They are terrorist, they spread terror.

Terror is a voluntary response that never killed anyone.

Listen to the calls and prevent another 9-11 or something more catastrophic. All my freedoms won't do crap for me if I'm DEAD.

Whether or not you are dead is really irrelevant. Your eating habits are more likely to kill you than a terrorist, but we are not asking the government to inspect our shopping lists.

We are all dead one way or another -- there is nothing special about dying. What makes life special is what we do while we live, and the amount of freedom we have determines the limits of what we can do while we live. I'd rather have a life of boundless opportunity with the freedom to make or break it as I see fit than to gain the weak promise of a few more days of a drab life under heavy-handed government.

I'll take quality over quantity, thank-you-very-much. Though you will notice that average quality of life tends to correlate with average quantity of life, historically. Freedom generates wealth generates power.

252 posted on 01/02/2006 4:32:06 PM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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