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"WHY ARE CONSERVATIVES SO AFRAID?"
The Corner ^ | 1/3/06 | Byron York

Posted on 01/03/2006 7:22:45 AM PST by Valin

In a stunning new statement, the enormously influential left-wing blogger Markos Moulitsas attacks the very basis for the war on terror, attributing American efforts to prevent future terrorist attacks not to national security concerns but to...conservative cowardice. In a piece entitled "Why are conservatives so afraid?", Moulitsas argues that conservatives simply aren't man enough to stand up to another terrorist attack, and therefore infringe on American civil liberties to save their own skins. "These blowhard pretend to be macho," Moulitsas writes, "even as they piddle on themselves in abject terror from every 'boo' that comes out of Osama bin Laden's mouth."

This is not the statement of some fringe blogger. Moulitsas is closely connected to the Democratic party leadership; according to a recent article in the Washington Monthly, Moulitsas speaks regularly with the staffs of Rep. Rahm Emmanuel, head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (and occasionally with Reid himself). Moulitsas also, shortly after the 2004 election, addressed the Senate Democratic caucus on the issue of making blogging part of the Democratic political strategy. He is not speaking as an outsider when he writes:

When our nation was founded, we had men of real character and courage fighting for their nascent America, one in which liberty and freedom trumped the authorative tendencies of the monarchy. Patrick Henry gave words to those efforts: "Give me liberty or give me death!"

My, how far we have fallen, with an administration that parlays the incessant fear of its supporters into increased authoritativeness [sic] to the point where he now resembles the very despot we fought in our war of independence.

And his supporters bellow, as they cower under their beds:

"Here's our liberties, just spare us from death!"

These blowhards pretend they are macho even as they piddle on themselves in abject terror from every "boo!" that comes out of Osama Bin Laden's mouth. They like to speak about how tough they are, even though they send others to fight their battles and couldn't last a day in places like Iraq, or Sudan, or the El Salvador of my youth, or any other war-torn nation....

The breathtaking cowardice of the 101st Fighting Keyboardists knows no bounds. They hide behind the American flag and our genuinely brave men and women in uniform. It's bad enough that they wouldn't deign to join the boots in the ground in Iraq. But now they make a mockery of our Constitution, for the very values that motivated our Founding Fathers to put their lives on the line to combat the unchecked powers of the British monarchy.

Moulitsas's statement drew a positive response from his readers, some of whom see a useful political strategy in it. "Oooo, I LIKE this meme!" one wrote:

It has a Wesley Clark flavor to it. If you guys are so tough, why are you prancing around looking for a place to hide from the big-bad terrorists? Ooooo, SCARY! Poor little Americans, pissing themselves because some guys took out a couple of buildings. We all have to get our survival plans ready in case they attack again. Let's give all our hard earned Freedom to Big Daddy George so he can tell us when we can use the john. Geez, Louise, you'd think Katrina would have snapped them out of it but the fraidy cats are still scared of those brown people with box cutters. You're more likely to get swept away by a hurricane and where will Big Daddy George be then? Clearing brush on his ranch.


TOPICS: Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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1 posted on 01/03/2006 7:22:46 AM PST by Valin
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To: Valin

Captains Quarter
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/006066.php


The New Democratic Meme: Self-Immolation
Markos Moulitsas has lost it -- and the candidates who pay him for his services might have some explaining to do about their views on national security in the future. Kos wrote today that Republicans want to protect the United States out of a sense of cowardice (h/t: The Corner):

When our nation was founded, we had men of real character and courage fighting for their nascent America, one in which liberty and freedom trumped the authorative tendencies of the monarchy. Patrick Henry gave words to those efforts:
"Give me liberty or give me death!" ...

These blowhards pretend they are macho even as they piddle on themselves in abject terror from every "boo!" that comes out of Osama Bin Laden's mouth. They like to speak about how tough they are, even though they send others to fight their battles and couldn't last a day in places like Iraq, or Sudan, or the El Salvador of my youth, or any other war-torn nation....

The breathtaking cowardice of the 101st Fighting Keyboardists knows no bounds. They hide behind the American flag and our genuinely brave men and women in uniform. It's bad enough that they wouldn't deign to join the boots in the ground in Iraq. But now they make a mockery of our Constitution, for the very values that motivated our Founding Fathers to put their lives on the line to combat the unchecked powers of the British monarchy.


Patrick Henry, however, did not utter those words to urge Americans to withdraw from the world or to "redeploy" to a horizon position. He gave us that grand mission by urging Americans to rise up and fight the British to shake off the bonds of the monarchy that held us without representation in Parliament and without recourse to the very liberties Moulitsas accuses us of giving up. Nor did Henry say, "Let any man who agrees with me but does not fire a weapon be called a chickenhawk." Henry believed in civilian control of the government, not a military dictatorship where only soldiers and those who had served could enter the world of self-government.

In other words, the allegory is drizzly Kos bulls**t.

Kos loves freedom of speech when that speech agrees with him. He loves civilian control of the military when those civilians belong to MoveOn, but not when they belong to the Republican Party. In fact, Kos doesn't like American values at all -- he only uses them when convenient to his argument, but in fact would rather have a Starship Troopers (the movie) government made up of military bureaucrats making all of our decisions for us. He has no respect for those who did go to Iraq to help with security -- recalling his infamous "Screw 'em" to the civilians who did believe in the mission enough to go over and help out, smearing them as "mercenaries" -- and then calls those who stay home and support the mission 'cowards'.

I will pray every night that Howard Dean and the rest of the Democrats take Kos' advice and adopt this as their meme, because I'm sure people feel like they would rather not see New York nuked than to take action within the law to defend this nation. Even most of the Democrats in this country would have a problem with candidates adopting the "Let DC Burn As Long As International Calls Don't Get Checked" platform. I, for one, would rather have the NSA checking on valid leads on al-Qaeda terrorists here in the US than to have my granddaughter vaporized by Islamofascists at the Mall of America. And if Markos doesn't like the fact that I use my freedom of speech to make that clear, then Markos can kiss my entire ass. Screw him and anyone who supports him.

UPDATE: Clarified my reference to Starship Troopers, and removed reference to Heinlein -- not quite the same thing.


2 posted on 01/03/2006 7:25:07 AM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: Valin

I suggest as a test for fear we put at liberals in cages with lions tigers and bears. (And by bears I don't mean those who are not bullish on the economy).


3 posted on 01/03/2006 7:25:10 AM PST by x5452
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To: Valin

Lessee...

Republicans have the Senate.
Republicans have the House.
Republicans have the White House.

Yea, I think that the liberals are onto something here....


4 posted on 01/03/2006 7:25:10 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: Valin
They like to speak about how tough they are, even though they send others to fight their battles...

Not unlike Clinton, who had fought bravely along side our men in Somalia and Bosnia through thick and thin.

5 posted on 01/03/2006 7:28:14 AM PST by Hadean
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To: Valin
I believe even in the movie Starship Troopers that active duty military could not vote. Only retired veterans could. And it was a "government service" issue, not a necessarily military one. Not all who signed up were sent to the military.
6 posted on 01/03/2006 7:29:27 AM PST by Restorer
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To: Hadean

My sarcasm meter is twiching


7 posted on 01/03/2006 7:29:28 AM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: Valin

"Why are conservatives so afraid?"

Because (to quote the 60's, 70's hippie "peaceniks"), "one Islamofacist nuclear bomb will ruin my whole day".

That's why "Richard(nickname)-head"


8 posted on 01/03/2006 7:29:37 AM PST by garyhope (Happy, healthy, prosperous New Year to all good Freepers and our brave military.)
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To: Valin
Sounds like a declaration of war on the "Daily Kaustic" to me...
9 posted on 01/03/2006 7:29:42 AM PST by xcamel (Exposing clandestine operations is treason. 13 knots make a noose.)
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To: Valin

When Bill Clinton was in the White House, and Tom Dasshole was running the Senate, everything was all hunky-dory in the green-shaded world of Kos.


10 posted on 01/03/2006 7:31:30 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: Valin
"Give me liberty or give me death!"

How about

Bring it on!

We saw how impressed the libs were when a real man made a real statement about fighting terrorists. They peed all over themselves denouncing it as so much "cowboy" bravado.

What a bunch of hypocritical drivel.
11 posted on 01/03/2006 7:31:47 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Valin
Well, there IS something to that argument.

But it won't be made successfully by proponents of the Nanny State.
12 posted on 01/03/2006 7:31:49 AM PST by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: Valin

Good idea, Kos. Run with this one.


13 posted on 01/03/2006 7:33:37 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: Valin
These blowhards pretend they are macho even as they piddle on themselves in abject terror from every "boo!" that comes out of Osama Bin Laden's mouth. They like to speak about how tough they are, even though they send others to fight their battles and couldn't last a day in places like Iraq, or Sudan, or the El Salvador of my youth, or any other war-torn nation....

Lots of people that this nitwit describes as 'cowards' and 'blowhards' are in fact, veterans. But then, one oughn't expect anything like thoughtful reflection and common sense out of the Left.

14 posted on 01/03/2006 7:35:35 AM PST by Riley ("Bother" said Pooh, as he fired the Claymores.)
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To: Valin

Where the hell was this idiot on 9/11/2001?


15 posted on 01/03/2006 7:35:59 AM PST by scooter2
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To: Valin
If I read this guy correctly, he is proposing that the Dummies adopt a "Bring it on" posture, make it easy for the terrorists to be successful and gloat about how brave they are when they come out of their bunkers after being bombed.

Yep, the Dummies are gonna go far with this one.

16 posted on 01/03/2006 7:37:22 AM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: Valin

He's got quite a rant there, and he makes some good points.

This looks like the fight we've been looking for, bring it on big boy. The cowards in Congress might cower, but you wont find that in Texas!


17 posted on 01/03/2006 7:37:45 AM PST by txroadhawg ("Stuck on stupid? I invented stupid! " Al Gore)
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To: Valin

This "fear" meme has been tried before, although not exactly this way. This is coming from the "Bush is Hitler!" party, the and the "Global Warming Sky is Falling" crowd. Both sides use fear, no doubt, but I think the things conservatives, well, most normal Americans as well, fear at this moment, are things that are demonstrably true, in like, it REALLY HAPPENED already. Sheesh..


18 posted on 01/03/2006 7:38:07 AM PST by Paradox (Time to sharpen ole Occam's Razor.)
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To: Valin
Another sign that the 'Rat Party is stepping out further into the political Twilight Zone.

Hillary's phony moves to the center is only making her look like a facist to the moonbat activists who dominate the primaries.

19 posted on 01/03/2006 7:39:00 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Valin

Barf and Liar alert!!!!!!!!


20 posted on 01/03/2006 7:39:07 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: Valin

The author should be advised that big cities are the main terrorist targets ... and are overwhelmingly Blue Nation. If a bomb wiped out a few million citygoers, it would only help Republicans in future elections... nevertheless
Republicans want to prevent another attack. Why oh why could that possibly be?


21 posted on 01/03/2006 7:39:58 AM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: Valin

He is quite right. We Conservatives have been very unwilling to do what needs to be done. I suppose we are just too wimpy to confront the Final Solution to the Liberal Problem...


22 posted on 01/03/2006 7:40:48 AM PST by jonascord ("As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!")
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To: Valin

While at a deer camp, I got into a heated argument with a vocal liberal, who had been drinking heavily. When discussing national security, his point was that a terrorists attack would never defeat the US. He believed that even a nuclear attack on a large US city would just be a blip. The US would keep rolling on. In thinking about such an attack, I believe that he might be right.

Civil rights comment. I am not worried with Bush in office. I would be scared to death with a Clinton type in office. A corrupt individual with unlimited power could possibly bring the US to her knees.


23 posted on 01/03/2006 7:41:10 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: Valin

I'm not afraid, Gus, I'm angry!


24 posted on 01/03/2006 7:41:13 AM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake)
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To: Valin

Please, please Democrats run on this as a platform.

If only they would run on this, 2006 could be a great year.


25 posted on 01/03/2006 7:41:37 AM PST by NeilGus
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To: Valin

Dear Kos,

Read your article.

You may have a point, and it's time that we ALL back up our words with action.

Bring your DD214, and you and I can go down and reinlist together.


26 posted on 01/03/2006 7:42:30 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (I can't really accept a welcome home until the last MIA does.)
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To: Valin

I see the rats continuing to full implosion. Their attack machine is alive and very sickly. This Moulitsas dude is clearly insane.


27 posted on 01/03/2006 7:42:32 AM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: Valin
"afraid?"
conservatives "afraid?"
I don't need to read any further! LOL

there are tens of thousands of "conservatives" facing and fighting terrorism evvvvvvvvery day in Iraq & Afghanistan and none of them are hiding behind a computer screen pontificating...and I won't even get into the millions of "conservatives" who served their country proudly and honorably over the decades...and that's a hell of a lot more than the limp wristed draft dodgers & antiwar 'Rat liberals can say! Let me know when this clown, Markos wants to go down to the Marine Corps recruiter and enlist...I'll be glad to drive him; until then; we don't need any more articles from him about who is "afraid." I'll tell you who was "afraid"...their leader, the draft dodging Clinton was AFRAID! He was so afraid; he dodged the draft THREE FRIGGIN' TIMES...that's who was "afraid!"
28 posted on 01/03/2006 7:42:33 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Paloma_55

And Sam Alito is on his way to confirmation for the Supreme Court.


29 posted on 01/03/2006 7:44:46 AM PST by shekkian
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To: Valin

"It's bad enough that they wouldn't deign to join the boots in the ground in Iraq."

I get this often. If I bother to respond at all it is to tell them that AFAIK, they just don't accept 47 year old cancer patients for active duty.


30 posted on 01/03/2006 7:46:15 AM PST by Trampled by Lambs (I think, therefor I Zot!)
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To: Valin

"the enormously influential left-wing blogger Markos Moulitsa"

Who? I've never heard of this guy.


31 posted on 01/03/2006 7:47:34 AM PST by dljordan
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To: Valin

Yeah, we should go back to the glorious days of the Klinton Administration, in which Alpha Male Klinton watched a series of terrorist attacks and did nothing, other than enjoy Monica's attentions. He proved what a tough guy he was over and over and over. On the other hand, draft dodger Hitler-wannabe Chimpy Bushit proved what a worthless coward he is by actually trying to stop any future attacks. How dare he!


32 posted on 01/03/2006 7:50:55 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: Valin

I'm so confused. I thought George Bush was an out of control blood thirsty dumb as a rock cowboy war monger. Clearly I need my memes refreshed.


33 posted on 01/03/2006 7:51:34 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: dljordan
This is who he's influential among...


34 posted on 01/03/2006 7:51:39 AM PST by oldleft
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To: dljordan

Say what? You never heard of Markos Moulitsa?

It's Bravarian for Micky Mouse.

warmest regards!


35 posted on 01/03/2006 7:53:39 AM PST by vimto (Life isn't a dry run)
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To: Valin
My message to Byron York: Here's your....
36 posted on 01/03/2006 7:57:01 AM PST by demkicker
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To: Valin
There was a time reading things like this would actually anger me. Lately I've found myself laughing at these silly little libs.

To call conservatives cowards is the most direct and unquestionable form of projection I've seen in years. With the John Kerry, firewall the boat throttle and dump my own men in the water - Jack Murtha, the surrender is always an option for this Exmarine - Ted Kennedy, the if I swim fast enough, the dead woman in my car might not be a threat to my political career types as the left wings template of manhood.

I'm sure every last single conservative is stinging with the rebuke from this towering example of heroism in pink panties and designer pumps. I don't know how Conservatives are going to look themselves in the face now that a member of the loonie limp wristed left wing lemmings has so soundly slapped them with his perfumed lacey gauntlet.

This steaming piece of Moulitsas might want to show his own bravery by putting down the koolaid stained keyboard and taking up a rifle as he joins our beloved armed forces in the fight against terror out in the world. No, on second thought, our warriors have enough danger facing them without slipping an addled adder into their ranks.
37 posted on 01/03/2006 7:57:23 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Whats with the Marquis of Queensbury Rules bullsh*t, we fight for our very survival! Fight Dirty!)
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To: Valin

Let me get this straight...."We are not weak on defense! You are weak on defense because you are a scardy cat!!!"

Wow.


38 posted on 01/03/2006 7:57:37 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Not today.)
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To: Valin

Of course! If we were really courageous, like Code Pink, George Soros, and Kos, we would view the prospect of innocent people being murdered for the benefit of Islamic fascists/totalitarians as nothing to worry about!

Dear Kos: You're a damned idiot.


39 posted on 01/03/2006 7:57:51 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: sauropod

rl


40 posted on 01/03/2006 7:59:25 AM PST by sauropod (Follow the Gourd! Follow the Gourd!)
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To: Valin
Ooooo, SCARY! Poor little Americans, pissing themselves because some guys took out a couple of buildings.

The unmasked liberal view of human life and liberty

Cordially,

41 posted on 01/03/2006 7:59:52 AM PST by Diamond (Qui liberatio scelestus trucido inculpatus.)
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To: Valin

The idiocy from the left never stops--we're not afraid, we're simply doing something about it. The left would not.


42 posted on 01/03/2006 8:00:45 AM PST by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron--the story of America through an ordinary family. ISBN: 1-4137-5397-3)
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To: Valin
More evidence that liberals love death, victimhood, and vulnerability.

Since respecting life, and preventing the deaths of Americans, is now somehow called cowardly.
43 posted on 01/03/2006 8:03:17 AM PST by roses of sharon ("I would rather men ask why I have no statue, than why I have one". ) (Cato the Elder)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
While at a deer camp, I got into a heated argument with a vocal liberal, who had been drinking heavily. When discussing national security, his point was that a terrorists attack would never defeat the US. He believed that even a nuclear attack on a large US city would just be a blip.

I'm not sure about that. Really imagine a nuclear attack to NYC. 7 million people dead or dying. Mass panic, finance shut down, millions more families without one or more parents, cries for restitution. Every large city has its own panic, people leave in droves. Next, terrorists have more attention with proof they have weapons, hold cities for ransom, more panic.

To me, 9/11 was surmountable for the US since it really was "isolated." Luck of the draw to be in the buildings hit...whereas a nuclear explosion is not isolated. That would draw true panic countrywide (especially libs who don't believe there's any danger). To me, stopping a nuke scenario is paramount.

44 posted on 01/03/2006 8:04:30 AM PST by soloNYer
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To: BamaAndy

Amazing that now they attempt to turn "doing something about it" into cowardice, and "turning a blind eye" into heroic action. Bad=good, wrong=right,


45 posted on 01/03/2006 8:04:39 AM PST by xmission
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To: Paloma_55

The liberals aren't "on" to anything - that's their problem.

The leadership of the dem party is following the Daily Kos.com to get their talking points. I hope they keep it up - America is already fed up with it .. and this latest will not sit well at all.


46 posted on 01/03/2006 8:05:35 AM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: Paradox

Interesting point. According to Libs, we should be afraid of Global Warming, but accepting of being slaughtered, in the thousands, by terrorists.


47 posted on 01/03/2006 8:05:46 AM PST by 6SJ7
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To: Valin
These stupid libs see 9/11 for nothing more than real big molotov cocktail - just a prank with larger than average consequences.

They carp over connecting the dots in criminal sense. They have no appreciation for connecting the dots in the larger sense.

9/11's impact was not in its direct danger to individual safety, but for its indication of larger trends:

The historical intersection of major weapons with crazy tyrants, the ineffectiveness of US intelligence here and abroad, blind faith in impotent diplomacy, the moral weakness of former US allies and mulitculturalists at home which hamstring an organized defense.

That these candy-ass libs think this is all about machismo means they are even less serious than I thought.

48 posted on 01/03/2006 8:07:43 AM PST by Monti Cello
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To: Valin
Drivers are cowards, bumpers, airbags, seat belts, what are you afraid of.

People are cowards when they eat. Washing your food, refrigerators, cooking, what kind of fear soaked mongrels are you.

Heterosexuals are cowards. If a gay wants relations with you, you are afraid to just bend over and take it. Ha ha fraidy cats.

Do you look both ways before you cross the street, I pity you in your daily pointless fear.

Do you have a bank account, mail order with credit cards, brush your teeth, watch you blood pressure, wash your hands after going to the bathroom??? You are too cowardly to be a real American and certainly too cowardly to be a good Democrat.
49 posted on 01/03/2006 8:08:30 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Valin
Moulitsas writes, "even as they piddle on themselves in abject terror from every 'boo' that comes out of Osama bin Laden's mouth."

The RATS and Muslims better be very afraid, another attack on the scale of 9/11 and Muslim neighborhoods will look like Bondai Beach. And US citizens are way better armed than Australians.

50 posted on 01/03/2006 8:12:13 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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