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Revote today [Dover, PA school board]
York Daily Record [Penna] ^ | 03 January 2006 | TOM JOYCE

Posted on 01/03/2006 12:12:37 PM PST by PatrickHenry

Also today, Dover's board might revoke the controversial intelligent design decision.

Now that the issue of teaching "intelligent design" in Dover schools appears to be played out, the doings of the Dover Area School Board might hold little interest for the rest of the world.

But the people who happen to live in that district find them to be of great consequence. Or so board member James Cashman is finding in his final days of campaigning before Tuesday's special election, during which he will try to retain his seat on the board.

Even though the issue that put the Dover Area School District in the international spotlight is off the table, Cashman found that most of the people who are eligible to vote in the election still intend to vote. And it pleases him to see that they're interested enough in their community to do so, he said.

"People want some finality to this," Cashman said.

Cashman will be running against challenger Bryan Rehm, who originally appeared to have won on Nov. 8. But a judge subsequently ruled that a malfunctioning election machine in one location obliges the school district to do the election over in that particular voting precinct.

Only people who voted at the Friendship Community Church in Dover Township in November are eligible to vote there today.

Rehm didn't return phone calls for comment.

But Bernadette Reinking, the new school board president, said she did some campaigning with Rehm recently. The people who voted originally told her that they intend to do so again, she said. And they don't seem to be interested in talking about issues, she said. Reinking said it's because they already voted once, already know where the candidates stand and already have their minds made up.

Like Cashman, she said she was pleased to see how serious they are about civic participation.

Another event significant to the district is likely to take place today, Reinking said. Although she hadn't yet seen a copy of the school board meeting's agenda, she said that she and her fellow members might officially vote to remove the mention of intelligent design from the school district's science curriculum.

Intelligent design is the idea that life is too complex for random evolution and must have a creator. Supporters of the idea, such as the Discovery Institute in Seattle, insist that it's a legitimate scientific theory.

Opponents argue that it's a pseudo-science designed solely to get around a 1987 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that biblical creationism can't be taught in public schools.

In October 2004, the Dover Area School District became the first in the country to include intelligent design in science class. Board members voted to require ninth-grade biology students to hear a four-paragraph statement about intelligent design.

That decision led 11 district parents to file a lawsuit trying to get the mention of intelligent design removed from the science classroom. U.S. Middle District Court Judge John E. Jones III issued a ruling earlier this month siding with the plaintiffs. [Kitzmiller et al. v Dover Area School District et al..]

While the district was awaiting Jones' decision, the school board election took place at the beginning of November, pitting eight incumbents against a group of eight candidates opposed to the mention of intelligent design in science class.

At first, every challenger appeared to have won. But Cashman filed a complaint about a voting machine that tallied between 96 to 121 votes for all of the other candidates but registered only one vote for him.

If he does end up winning, Cashman said, he's looking forward to doing what he had in mind when he originally ran for school board - looking out for students. And though they might be of no interest to news consumers in other states and countries, Cashman said, the district has plenty of other issues to face besides intelligent design. Among them are scholastic scores and improving the curriculum for younger grades.

And though he would share the duties with former opponents, he said, he is certain they would be able to work together.

"I believe deep down inside, we all have the interest and goal to benefit the kids," he said.

Regardless of the turnout of today's election, Reinking said, new board members have their work cut out for them. It's unusual for a board to have so many new members starting at the same time, she said.

"We can get to all those things that school boards usually do," she said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
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This is the final hurrah of the Dover evolution-intelligent design drama. In all the other school board slots that were up for election, the incumbents lost. This incumbent is getting a revote. Whatever happens in this particular race, the conclusion appears to be that ID is electoral death.
1 posted on 01/03/2006 12:12:39 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 01/03/2006 12:14:03 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PatrickHenry
The court made it perfectly clear: the school system has a duty to prevent children from adhering to their parents' beliefs.
3 posted on 01/03/2006 12:15:21 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: PatrickHenry
the conclusion appears to be that ID is electoral death

The good guys win again. I love America!

4 posted on 01/03/2006 12:16:20 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: BenLurkin
The court made it perfectly clear: the school system has a duty to prevent children from adhering to their parents' beliefs.

But wait, we're constantly being told that ID is not a religion. It certainly isn't an attempt to sneak Christianity past the Constutional prohibition.

So which is it?

5 posted on 01/03/2006 12:17:37 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: BenLurkin
The court made it perfectly clear: the school system has a duty to prevent children from adhering to their parents' beliefs.

They've been doing for 40 years. Nothing new, when you think about it. This is just the newest incarnation of the war against traditional values and parental rights.
6 posted on 01/03/2006 12:18:35 PM PST by JamesP81
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To: BenLurkin
The court made it perfectly clear: the school system has a duty to prevent children from adhering to their parents' beliefs.

Talk about spin! The decision reiterated that public schools are no place to promote any particular religious beliefs. If the parents don't like it, they always have the option of private school.

7 posted on 01/03/2006 12:19:15 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: JamesP81

Hillary should be well pleased with the continuing advance of her village and the defeat of the family.


8 posted on 01/03/2006 12:20:28 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: JamesP81
This is just the newest incarnation of the war against traditional values and parental rights.

Keeping non-science out of science classroom is part of a war against traditional values and parental rights?
9 posted on 01/03/2006 12:21:06 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Junior

Spin my eye!


10 posted on 01/03/2006 12:21:06 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: PatrickHenry
she and her fellow members might officially vote to remove the mention of intelligent design from the school district's science curriculum.

Lord forbid that you even mention it. It's illegal to even talk about it. Sounds like schools under Communism...

11 posted on 01/03/2006 12:22:34 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: 2banana
It's illegal to even talk about it.

No, it isn't. Stop lying.
12 posted on 01/03/2006 12:23:00 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Junior

"public schools are no place to promote any particular religious beliefs"

I'm confused. Which particular religious beliefs were they trying to promote?


13 posted on 01/03/2006 12:23:52 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: PatrickHenry; Alamo-Girl; marron; hosepipe; editor-surveyor
Intelligent design is the idea that life is too complex for random evolution and must have a creator.

Of course you know, dear Patrick, that that's not what ID is at all. It says nothing about whether the source of the "intelligence" is a natural process or an agent.

I think what this brou-ha-ha is ultimately about is methodological naturalism is a scientific method based on only two of Aristotle's four causes: the material and the efficient. It is a "reductionist" method, in that it omits to consider the formal and final causes. ID is interested in all four causes.

Ultimately, this fight is not over a "creator." It's about what causes the scientific method ought to address, going forward. FWIW

14 posted on 01/03/2006 12:24:00 PM PST by betty boop (Dominus illuminatio mea.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Uh oh. Editing error.

Intelligent design is the idea that it can be scientifically proved that life is too complex for random evolution and must have a creator.

There. Fixed it.

15 posted on 01/03/2006 12:24:08 PM PST by RonF
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To: Dimensio
No, it isn't. Stop lying.

Take it somewhere else, troll. No one's listening.
16 posted on 01/03/2006 12:24:33 PM PST by JamesP81
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To: 2banana
Sounds like schools under Communism...

You mean the Communist schools who rejected scientific facts when it didn't conform to their dogma? The ones that were more interested in their political agenda than actual knowledge?

If that describes anyone in this case, it describes the school board members.

17 posted on 01/03/2006 12:24:43 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mlc9852

You shoulda checked the post to which I replied. He's the one who brought up "parents' beliefs."


18 posted on 01/03/2006 12:24:44 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: PatrickHenry
The "science" of Darwinian materialism is in deep trouble, PH. It is hemorrhaging because it cannot answer simple questions posed by Intelligent Design. This silly little bandaid applied to the gaping wound by a small-minded angry little frump of a judge isn't going to make the slightest bit of difference over the long haul.
19 posted on 01/03/2006 12:28:46 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: JamesP81

So how is keeping non-science out of science classroom is part of a war against traditional values and parental rights?


20 posted on 01/03/2006 12:28:49 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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