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TBN EXPOSED! Hal Lindsey Refuses to Compromise to Stay on Air!
Oracle ^ | 1/04/2005 | Hal Lindsey

Posted on 01/04/2006 9:42:35 AM PST by underwiredsupport

TBN EXPOSED! Hal Lindsey Refuses to Compromise to Stay on Air!

Here is the letter written by Hal Lindsey to Paul and Jan Crouch, of TBN....(way to go Hal!)


Hal Lindsey Leaving TBN
http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/articles.asp?ArticleID=12286

Refuses to Compromise to Stay on Air

January 1, 2006

Dear Paul and Jan,

Paul, Jr. relayed your message to me that you are both in agreement on the policy of nothing negative being said on TBN about Muslims. Hearing that you also warned John Haggee, Perry Stone, Jack VanImpe and others of this policy caused me to realize that your are not going to modify your position.

I love and respect you both and know your heart for evangelism of the Muslims. But I don't agree with your reasoning that warning about the dangers of "radical Islam" is a hindrance to the Gospel to all Muslims. The 'Radicals' are intimidating the moderate Muslims -- not to mention their terrible persecution of Arab and Palestinian Christians.

Jesus confronted false religion (which Islam is) by calling them "whitewashed tombstones", "Brood of vipers", and "sons of hell" in Matthew 23.

I am sure of my calling from the LORD. One important part of that calling is to sound a prophetic alarm to America and the world about the dangers of the false religion of Fundamental Islam. It is a "Watchman on the Wall" kind of calling.

In addition, the IIB is a news show from a Christian perspective. It is impossible to report the news without mentioning in a 'negative light' the radical Islamists who are wreaking murder and destruction on the Western world daily. It is truthfully reporting the most relevant news that made IIB one the most popular programs on TBN.

It is also absolutely unacceptable to me to require my script to be submitted for censorship each week and then to learn whether my program will be aired or not. I don't have much money and it costs me a lot out of pocket to produce each show. When it is rejected or pre-empted, it is a big loss for me.

So with regret and grief, I am not returning to TBN. I intend to pursue other avenues of ministry. I thank you for the years of association in the ministry. May God continue to bless you in your pursuit of evangelizing the world.

In Christ's grace,
Hal Lindsey
 


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1 posted on 01/04/2006 9:42:36 AM PST by underwiredsupport
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To: underwiredsupport

What is TBN?


2 posted on 01/04/2006 9:46:01 AM PST by Rumierules
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To: underwiredsupport
I give him credit for trying to stay on TBN as long as in good conscience he could. There is so very little Biblical truth on that network.

Thanks for posting this.

3 posted on 01/04/2006 9:46:22 AM PST by gracex7 (The LORD is not slack concerning His promise....but is longsuffering to us-ward. 2 Peter 3:9)
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To: Rumierules

A psuedo Christian TV Network.


4 posted on 01/04/2006 9:47:23 AM PST by x5452
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To: underwiredsupport
Go Hal!

My respect for him just increased a notch. A very small notch.

5 posted on 01/04/2006 9:47:32 AM PST by meowmeow (Meow! Meow!)
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To: Rumierules

I think that it stands for Trinity Broadcasting Network.

How Christian is truly is will become a matter of debate on here.


6 posted on 01/04/2006 9:49:34 AM PST by AZ_Cowboy (Christmas isn't over until the 6th. Don't tell the lefty bloggers!)
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To: NoCmpromiz

ping


7 posted on 01/04/2006 9:49:35 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: underwiredsupport
I am sure of my calling from the LORD. One important part of that calling is to sound a prophetic alarm to America and the world about the dangers of the false religion of Fundamental Islam.

And if anyone knows about false religion, it's TBN.

8 posted on 01/04/2006 9:51:13 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: underwiredsupport

WTF?

I thought Barney Miller left the air in the 80's????


9 posted on 01/04/2006 9:51:29 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: meowmeow
Hal Linden is off the air?

Barney Miller was one of my favorites.

10 posted on 01/04/2006 9:52:05 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Rumierules

"What is TBN?"

It's a television network, ostensibly Christian in nature, designed to make lots of money for its owners. Not so many folks watch it, though.


11 posted on 01/04/2006 9:52:28 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Rumierules
What is TBN?

It's a cable "Christian" network with a lot of heretical "teachers" who seem to know little or nothing about solid Biblical theology.

12 posted on 01/04/2006 9:53:02 AM PST by tame (Are you willing to be as SHAMELESS for the truth as leftists are for a lie?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I remember as a kid getting a good chuckle out of his real name, Harold Lipshitz.


13 posted on 01/04/2006 9:53:58 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Toddsterpatriot


I didn't expect that!

14 posted on 01/04/2006 9:54:09 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: AZ_Cowboy

For instance...
http://www.pfo.org/tbnboot.htm
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/t27.html
http://www.letusreason.org/Pent49.htm
http://www.ondoctrine.com/10tbn.htm

I've never watched but have read descriptions of a lot of their shows... at best it's greeting card Christianity, not the real deal.


15 posted on 01/04/2006 9:54:27 AM PST by x5452
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To: underwiredsupport
Note to Hal: Lose the Grecian Formula on the moustache.


16 posted on 01/04/2006 9:55:07 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: x5452

Full of hair, make-up and 'bling' that any two-bit rapper would envy. "Oh, Praise the Lord, my Mercedes is doing fine!" crap. I like Lindsay's show since it's not part of the insipid pattern and hope it becomes available elsewhere.


17 posted on 01/04/2006 9:55:12 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Rumierules
What is TBN?

It's the reason my tv remote goes directly from 61 to 63.

18 posted on 01/04/2006 9:55:27 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Rumierules
Q: What is TBN?

A: A TV station that sells religion and makes the money lenders Jesus drove out of the temple, blush.......and it's the home of the pink-haired woman!


19 posted on 01/04/2006 9:55:59 AM PST by OB1kNOb (TBD.)
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To: Petronski

I guess Michael Corleone let him off the hook after all.


20 posted on 01/04/2006 9:56:04 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: MineralMan
Grecian Formula?


21 posted on 01/04/2006 9:56:50 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: dfwgator

For old time sake...


22 posted on 01/04/2006 9:57:11 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: MineralMan

LOL, John Bolton in reverse.


23 posted on 01/04/2006 9:57:17 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: underwiredsupport

Good for him. Maybe others will be strong too.


24 posted on 01/04/2006 9:57:40 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: WhiteGuy; meowmeow

That never gets old. (Like Benny Hinn/Benny Hill)


25 posted on 01/04/2006 9:58:20 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Free Speech is not for everyone, If you don't like it, then don't use it)
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To: MineralMan

Note to Jan: Ditch the big pink hair (we all know it's a wig!) and the outdated black heavy eye makeup! For gosh sake, face the fact that your NOT eternally 16!!!!!!!
Oh yeah, put your prom dresses away, too!


26 posted on 01/04/2006 10:00:59 AM PST by derllak
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To: underwiredsupport
Jesus confronted false religion (which Islam is) by calling them "whitewashed tombstones", "Brood of vipers", and "sons of hell" in Matthew 23.

I think 'hypocrite' would be a better description than 'false religion'.

27 posted on 01/04/2006 10:04:26 AM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (We know the right things to do, why don't we just do them?)
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To: underwiredsupport
Hal Lindsey is one of their best shows along with Van Impe and Haggee. Maybe they will pool their resources and start their own "real" Christian station.
28 posted on 01/04/2006 10:05:29 AM PST by fish hawk (creatio ex nihilo)
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To: fish hawk

Bump to a new station..let the Crouch's explain away the latest scandal...of their pool cleaning boy...YUCK!


29 posted on 01/04/2006 10:08:15 AM PST by underwiredsupport (...for the shape of things to come!)
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To: AZ_Cowboy

Should be "it truly is"


30 posted on 01/04/2006 10:09:43 AM PST by AZ_Cowboy (Christmas isn't over until the 6th. Don't tell the lefty bloggers!)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes; All
Former TBN Employee Alleges Gay Tryst With Paul Crouch
TBN boss paid $425,000 to silence claims, but accuser now wants $10 million.
Compiled by Ted Olsen | posted 09/13/2004 2:30 p.m.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2004/137/11.0.html

How big a televangelist scandal?

When Rick Jones, an ordained minister and former cop, heard his boss talking about another minister's homosexual activity with an employee, he "got up and walked away," the Los Angeles Times reported on its front page yesterday. "I didn't want to hear gossip."

But his boss was televangelist Benny Hinn, a staple on the Trinity Broadcasting Network. And Hinn was talking about TBN founder and president Paul Crouch. And Los Angeles Times reports that it's no longer just gossip—it's a tale of attempted extortion, litigation, and tragedy.

For all the details, you'll have to read William Lobdell's extensively reported, 1,900-word article. But here are a few observations.

First, extortion seems like the only word to describe what Enoch Lonnie Ford, the former TBN employee who says he and Crouch had extramarital sex in 1996, attempted. Crouch paid him a $425,000 settlement in 1998 after Ford accused the global network of wrongful termination. Key to the settlement, of course, was a secrecy agreement. Last April, however, Ford handed Crouch an autobiographical manuscript detailing his claims of a sexual encounter. The Times reports:

Ford's lawyer later told ministry officials that they could keep the work out of public view by buying the rights. After some discussion, he suggested that $10 million might be a reasonable price. … Ford's attorney, Eugene Zech, said [TBN attorney Dennis G. Brewer Sr.] called him the next business day [after Ford gave Crouch the manuscript]. In court papers, Zech said that Brewer asked "if Ford might be willing to accept $1 million in exchange for the manuscript." Zech said in the court filing that he suggested $10 million.
$10 million! Simon & Schuster paid Hillary Clinton only $8 million for her memoir, Living History. GE chairman Jack Welch got $7 million for Straight from the Gut. That number isn't about a book—it's about keeping Ford's story "out of the public view"—something Crouch had already paid $425,000 expressly to do.

TBN yesterday issued a statement explaining the settlement. It says, in part:

In an effort to address this matter in 1997, Dr. Crouch sought the advice and counsel of some trusted advisers, attorneys and spiritual leaders. The consensus viewpoint was that it would be better for TBN and Dr. Crouch to reach a financial settlement rather than to fight the accuser in court. This course of action was deemed less expensive and would avoid the bad publicity, time and effort that it would take to fight the false claims. Dr. Crouch reluctantly agreed to this advice with the understanding that the accuser would go away and leave both he and TBN alone forever. The importance of the settlement does not rest on the money paid, but rather on Dr. Crouch's vehement denial of the allegations made against him as well as the agreement of the accuser to keep confidential and refrain from repeating his false claims and accusations. Most importantly, at no time were ministry funds used in any portion of this settlement.
Second, it's clear that this story isn't yet to the level of the Jim Bakker or Jimmy Swaggart scandals of the 1980s. Both of those men were accused of breaking the law—Bakker for fraud related to time-shares, and Swaggart for prostitution. If the Crouch story is true (and the Times reports much evidence that it may be), the TBN head is guilty of having consensual sex with an employee. That's immoral and unethical, but not criminal—especially in post-Monica America.

Ford's claim to wrongful termination doesn't seem to have much basis, either. TBN terminated his employment in 1998 while Ford was serving a prison sentence for violating terms of his probation through drug use. The network hired him in 1992, took him back after a 1994 jail term for statutory rape, and again took him back after a 1995 conviction for possession of cocaine. One would think that TBN had ample reason to let him go.

But it wasn't the fraud that brought down Bakker's PTL, and few could probably tell you why he went to prison. Still, people vaguely remember Jessica Hahn, and it was the affair that stopped the contributions. TBN may take a major hit in the wake of this story, and Crouch's position as president could be at risk, but he's not going to prison.

Then again, Crouch and TBN could very well make it through this. Ford is legally prohibited from talking about his claim. The Times quotes arbitrator Robert J. Neill's ruling that Ford's "right to discuss these matters was bought and paid for. He relinquished that right." That right, Neill said, "was sold to [Crouch] for $425,000."

It doesn't appear that Crouch is going to make a big deal of responding to the Times story. The press release calls the claims "dishonest, false, and scandalous," and adds that "Dr. Crouch will continue to respond to God's call on his life as president of TBN. … This storm will pass." Another storm was the focus of today's "Behind the Scenes," a live show that focuses on "the ministries & activities taking place each day at TBN locally and around the world. Crouch did not host today, but his son (Paul Crouch Jr.) focused on the effect of Hurricane Ivan on TBN's Caribbean affiliates. The Times story was not mentioned. (The Crouches' better-known show, "Praise the Lord," airs at 2 p.m. Pacific, and is streamed live online.)

Crouch has weathered decades of criticism for his Word-Faith theology, and is famous in some evangelical circles for his prophecies against his critics. ("God, we proclaim death to anything or anyone that will lift a hand against this network and this ministry that belongs to You, God," he said in 1997.) The question now will be whether Crouch's donors see the Times story as a revelation, as a demonic attack, or (as the TBN press release puts it), "a reprehensible fact of modern life." If Crouch is forced to leave, it could have a huge effect on the world's largest religious television network (and thus global Christianity). TBN is broadcast via 43 satellites and more than 10,000 television and cable affiliates worldwide.
 

31 posted on 01/04/2006 10:11:23 AM PST by underwiredsupport (...for the shape of things to come!)
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To: underwiredsupport
Dr. Gene Scott pointed out TBN's compromises years ago. Nothing new.
32 posted on 01/04/2006 10:13:45 AM PST by GoforBroke
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To: underwiredsupport

Anyone who pays any attention at all, much less gives money to, this crowd of clowns is an idiot. And I need to figure out how to get some of this action. Is the main thing stupid hair? Because I can do that.


33 posted on 01/04/2006 10:14:35 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: OB1kNOb
Good Lord! Are these two still around?? I didn't know which annoyed me the most..these two or the "talent" that sang on their program....
34 posted on 01/04/2006 10:15:48 AM PST by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Petronski; dfwgator

“Can’t do it, Sally.”


35 posted on 01/04/2006 10:16:07 AM PST by dighton
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To: x5452

Oh, there's no debate with me on the matter. I've seen some wild stuff on there. Much of it crosses well into heresy in my book.


36 posted on 01/04/2006 10:20:34 AM PST by AZ_Cowboy (Christmas isn't over until the 6th. Don't tell the lefty bloggers!)
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To: Hank Rearden

No, the main thing is the ability to get people to believe tall tales about raising people from the dead and healings (never reliably documented, of course), and the ability to twist the Scriptures to prove that if you send Paul, Jan, and Benny $1,000.00, God HAS to send you $100,000.00 (the hundredfold return). Furthermore, if God doesn't send you the money, then it's your fault because of sin, lack of faith, or some such reason. In other words, you have to be a very good and shameless con artist.


37 posted on 01/04/2006 10:22:57 AM PST by Cecily
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To: fish hawk

I was thinking the same thing. If they've threatened to pull the plug on Jack VanImpe, John Hagee, and Perry Stone, something is very wrong there at TBN. They are all the ones I watch!
I cannot believe John Hagee would put up with that tho!
I hope Hal Lindsey comes on somewhere else. I love his show.


38 posted on 01/04/2006 10:24:42 AM PST by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: jackv
I didn't mention Perry Stone as I'm not familiar with him. But the others are top notch. Van Impe is great always, Haggee gets to me a little when he starts shouting like the old school preachers of the forties and fifties. His massages are always right on though.
39 posted on 01/04/2006 10:29:47 AM PST by fish hawk (creatio ex nihilo)
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To: fish hawk

Perry is ROCK SOLID...and an awesome teacher. Great website as well....http://www.perrystone.org


40 posted on 01/04/2006 10:34:10 AM PST by underwiredsupport (...for the shape of things to come!)
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To: underwiredsupport

Wow!
I know they frequently have a "prophet" on Kim something or other who "forsaw" Bush getting shot or attacked during one of his presidential debates with Kerry. That's when I knew he was a fraud.
But they still have him on, which makes you wonder......


41 posted on 01/04/2006 10:37:02 AM PST by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: fish hawk

Yes, John Hagee can get going, but I really love him. I love it when he says "...and everything's gonna be alright...", with the Lord of course!
:o)


42 posted on 01/04/2006 10:39:11 AM PST by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: underwiredsupport

Hopefully David Jeremiah doesn't walk...but if the Crouch's and the other "God don't juan you to drive around in no Fohd...GOD juans you to drive arounn inna CAD'O LAK" crowd..are financially benefiting...perhaps it's time to say adios.


43 posted on 01/04/2006 10:39:52 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: fish hawk
His massages are always right on though.

LOL!

44 posted on 01/04/2006 10:45:14 AM PST by papertyger (We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.)
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To: jackv
Wow! I know they frequently have a "prophet" on Kim something or other who "forsaw" Bush getting shot or attacked during one of his presidential debates with Kerry. That's when I knew he was a fraud. But they still have him on, which makes you wonder......

Art Bell Evangelicals?

45 posted on 01/04/2006 10:47:04 AM PST by papertyger (We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.)
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To: underwiredsupport

I point out that Hal mis-characterized the object of Jesus' statements - he was talking about 'hypocrites', not a 'false religion' - and I get this response?

What am I supposed to do with that?


46 posted on 01/04/2006 10:55:17 AM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (We know the right things to do, why don't we just do them?)
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To: Rumierules

Trinity Broadcast Network.


47 posted on 01/04/2006 11:02:14 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: OB1kNOb

Who is she? She looks like the reincarnation of Tammy Faye Bakker!!!


48 posted on 01/04/2006 11:29:13 AM PST by fredhead (The NAVY - Full Speed Ahead (or is it Astern?))
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To: underwiredsupport

Read later.


49 posted on 01/04/2006 11:32:57 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: fredhead

50 posted on 01/04/2006 11:35:13 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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