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Judgement Day for Republicans
WND.com ^ | 01-05-06 | Farah, Joseph

Posted on 01/05/2006 6:18:00 AM PST by Theodore R.

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To: Theodore R.
Absolutely fantastic column, but I think he might be overestimating the involvement of conservatives in the Republican party. The extended base hasn't been energized enough to come out in significant numbers since Reagan (the last decisive presidential elections), so their lack of involvement in '06 and '08 probably won't matter that much anyway.
41 posted on 01/05/2006 7:52:15 AM PST by beeler ("When you’re running down my country, Hoss you’re walking on the fighting side of me.")
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To: jveritas

Oh so now you want me to prove what I vividly remember, you slanderous liar! I know you for what you are. YOU ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED. YOU LIE. YOU SLANDER.


42 posted on 01/05/2006 7:52:37 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Fight corruption by choking government power and curbing government spending.)
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To: MeekOneGOP; backhoe; whoever

I need some help and apologize for intruding on your valuable time. But I have just been slandered by a character assassin. Did I ever once predict a Bush defeat back in 2004? Do you friends, whos posts I've swapped with numerous times, recall me making that prediction? On the other side of the coin, did you happen to see my profile predicting a Bush, House, and Senate win prior to Kerry's nomination?


43 posted on 01/05/2006 7:58:47 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Fight corruption by choking government power and curbing government spending.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Question for everyone: How many of you suspect your own republican senator or representative is involved in illegal dealings with Abramoff?

I do. However, there are more reasons to replace my rep than just this one.

If so, will you attempt to replace them in the primary?

Of course.

If we kick out the republicans who are corrupt, and do so in the primaries, will our replacement candidates be susceptible to attacks in the general election?

Yes, which is why we must never accept a mediocre candidate and we should never give money to the party itself.

Do you think the democrats will bother to boot any of THIER candidate out in primaries for involvement with Abramoff?

I would hope that Americans would shun the corrupt regardless of party.

We could actually run as the party which cares about corruption instead of just talking about it.

Leave party affiliation out of this. Let's be Americans first instead of politically manipulated lemmings.

44 posted on 01/05/2006 8:01:02 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: WhiteGuy

For the most part those who received funds from Abramoff are giving that money to charities. They expect such gestures to absolve them with gullible voters. So it should be business as usual, the powers-that-be expect.


45 posted on 01/05/2006 8:03:04 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Don't be an idiot.

He stated the SwiftVets were the reason President Bush won. President Bush won on his political platform. The SwiftVets and John Kerry had a personal dispute he refused to address and instead he trashed them and it hurt his campaign. President Bush benefited from this dispute but he would have won anyway.
46 posted on 01/05/2006 8:05:00 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: TheForceOfOne
President Bush benefited from this dispute but he would have won anyway.

We'll never know, for if 65,000 "moderates" in OH had switched from Bush II to Kerry, Kerry would now be "in charge."

47 posted on 01/05/2006 8:06:49 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Theodore R.

What if's, we can make them up all day.


48 posted on 01/05/2006 8:08:15 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: All
This year will be a wake up call to many Americans who've never bothered to think about politics/Gov't and what roles they play in their lives.
Corruption at it's worst, from left to right, top to bottom. In these hearings we'll hear more lies than we can handle...the Demo's will try to deny knowing who Abramoff is, and probably get away with it. Republicans again will be shown, because of *PERSONAL* contributions from Abramoff, that they are the real badguys in this mess because of the LIBERAL MEDIA and the fact that the DEMS will spend every cent they have to push their *Sorry* messages while pointing the finger.

Time for everyone to wake up and participate...I for one am tired of having to pick the lesser of 2 evils...especially when both choices hop/skip/jump hand in hand over everybody else's heads.

Our Gov'ts aren't representatives of the people anymore...

Luckily, there are a few *honest* politicians left...i wish they'd break down the walls and come together...cos our system of Government is a laughing stalk right now.
49 posted on 01/05/2006 8:10:16 AM PST by kajingawd (" happy with stone underhead, let Heaven and Earth go about their changes")
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To: TheForceOfOne

To be clear, I have to hand it to Bush on the popular vote. But the electorial vote was extemely close. And I'm not in the mood of putting up with being called an idiot at the moment, after having already been slandered on this same page.


50 posted on 01/05/2006 8:11:23 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Fight corruption by choking government power and curbing government spending.)
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To: Theodore R.

Sadly, you are probably correct.

We can only participate as individuals.


51 posted on 01/05/2006 8:12:37 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Then we will have our constructive agenda which will be totally opposite of the democrats and we will make sure that the voters see the striking difference between both agendas.


52 posted on 01/05/2006 8:12:55 AM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: Theodore R.
They [the GOP] have squandered the greatest historic opportunity to rein in unconstitutional government in Washington since the War Between the States.

Yep.

While taking the Presidency for two terms, the Congress and the Senate, the GOP has retrogressed ideologically and sat on its hands.

Using a football analogy, these last 5 years have been like having 4th and goal and trying NOT to score.

53 posted on 01/05/2006 8:14:04 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Theodore R.
And if 3000 votes shift in New Hamphsire President Bush would have won anyway and without Ohio, and if and if and if.
54 posted on 01/05/2006 8:15:01 AM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Huh? He cited the Swiftboat vets as the reason why Bush won. I think he makes a valid point. And please show me a single left winger who admires the Swiftboat Vets.

I think the point of argument is whether or not GWB would have won without the Swift Boat Veterans; not whther the left admires the Swiftees.

I don't follow polling and "what pushes the electorates buttons," so won't render an opinion on that, but I personally supported the Switfees efforts, and personally refuse to give money to the RNC and GOP.

55 posted on 01/05/2006 8:19:20 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

It wouldn't matter if President Bush won by 1 or 100 electoral votes, the same result would occur. The Democrats hate President Bush because they never got over the 2000 election. Anyone stuck on the statistics of the 2000 or 2004 elections needs to let go and move forward with life.


56 posted on 01/05/2006 8:19:45 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: jveritas
Yes. The old-fashioned way. Mikey likes it!
57 posted on 01/05/2006 8:20:30 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: jveritas

But our party is spending more and more money on social programs. And W has never used his veto pen.


58 posted on 01/05/2006 8:22:03 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; jveritas
Oh so now you want me to prove what I vividly remember, you slanderous liar! I know you for what you are. YOU ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED. YOU LIE. YOU SLANDER.

The way the process works is that the burden of production of evidence falls to the injured party. Now it looks like "claim" and "conterclaim" as each of you has been accused to be a liar!

Oh I do so enjoy FR spats - this is one of the most entertaining places on the 'net! Almost as good as usenet.

59 posted on 01/05/2006 8:24:34 AM PST by Cboldt
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60 posted on 01/05/2006 8:26:33 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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