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To: muawiyah

serious question - does this kind of information require a warrant? these aren't taps of phone conversations, just a list of the numbers called apparently.


12 posted on 01/05/2006 7:45:04 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
Look, we'd get strange phone numbers on our bills and I'd call the party on the other end and find out who they were and who it was hacked our numbers to call them.

Send that sucker over to the cops and make a collection.

Theoretically the cops would need a warrant to make that call to whoever it was at the other end. Remember, they'd "done nothing".

I didn't need a warrant.

No one ever questioned this method, least of all the phone company.

It's like this, phones are not new. Phone scams have been around a long time. If you're getting billed for someone else's "use" you are allowed to pursue them!

17 posted on 01/05/2006 7:48:42 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: oceanview

Every single customer's personal information was logged into a government database -

Not just McVeigh's calls...


25 posted on 01/05/2006 7:52:04 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: oceanview

Actually just a subpeona from a judge or DA. I deal with these kind of requests on a daily basis.


35 posted on 01/05/2006 7:59:43 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: oceanview
these aren't taps of phone conversations

The NSA doesn't do wiretaps either. Not you specifically, ocean...but I wish people would stop refering to this as wiretapping. It is as different from wiretapping as is a personal search.

They are simply filtering huge numbers of data packs, looking for a pattern.

One filter may be taking flight lessons. No big deal in and of itself, but if it is combined with frequent phone calls to the ME, and the word "Jihad" is mentioned frequently, perhaps you may be in the filter mechanism, and get a closer look. Probably still nothing to get alarmed about. But those phone calls to OBL are going to get you snared.

They don't give a rats ass if you are talking on your phone about running down the street to buy an ounce of weed, and couldn't use it in court anyway.

38 posted on 01/05/2006 8:04:29 PM PST by NeonKnight (Republican Death Machine)
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To: oceanview
serious question - does this kind of information require a warrant? these aren't taps of phone conversations, just a list of the numbers called apparently.

That's my question too. Doesn't seem this info would require a court order.

97 posted on 01/06/2006 7:28:32 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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