Morgan StanleyFires Male StaffersFor Strip-Club Trip

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ^ | January 5, 2006; Page C3 | RANDALL SMITH

[Republican Wildcat]

That was my first thought as well.

[Republican Wildcat]

Yeah, it's not naive to think that a girl you are paying to give you a lap dance is doing it because they like you. People who go to these places are losers who need to get a life...especially if they are over 19 and still doing it.

[beaver fever]

"I was a frat boy, now a partner in my firm, and only once in my career have I run into one of my old brothers-- and he was in no position to help me, handshake or no. I am not even aware that any of my other partners was a member of ANY fraternity."

During the end of session recruiting fair my ex asked a fellow student how he did in his interview.

His answer was that he got the job because the interviewer was a frat brother.

He got the job with (then Delloite Touche Ross) which was a more prestigious firm than Thorne Ernst Whinney where my ex went even though her marks were higher than his.

He did not attempt to hide that his frat connections trumped her superior academic standing.

As for normal heterosexual men going to a strip bar in their business suits 3/4 of the way through a working day, I have to ask where does professionalism kick in?

Accounting I was told was a conservative profession that guarded that reputation jealously. I saw no hint of that when socializing with them.

I actually almost got into a fight with a frat boy at the company Christmas party because he was drunk and throwing popcorn at me. If it wasn't for my concern for my ex's reputation with her company I would have laid him out like a mackerel in the hotel lobby in front of all the partners.

I was an doing my Masters degree in Art History at the time but had more concern for good manners than he did and chose not to create a spectacle.

He was also a hockey player which tells you something.

Taking him out would have been easy and delicious but when in polite company self restraint is the order of the day.

By the way I don't think Animal House is the least bit funny and frat house sex videos are now a big porno category on the internet.

Not exactly a reputation to build on.

[Triggerhippie]

I was an doing my Masters degree in Art History at the time but had more concern for good manners than he did and chose not to create a spectacle.

He was also a hockey player which tells you something.

It tells me that he was no stranger to a good fistfight and you had the smarts to retain all of your teeth.

[GSlob]

"You'd think these guys know better than to even think about doing stuff like this in this day & age."
What do you mean? Unless a stock analyst does a thorough research on the business, he cannot, and ought not to, make business decisions regarding it. He HAD TO go there.

[garandgal]

Then you probably know that they actually found the original "great escape" tunnels recently.

That would be more up my husband's alley. I'm a big homefront buff, and although I love the history, I don't follow it as much as he does (History Channel 24/7).

My Great-Uncle was POW in Germany, taken at Anzio and held for the duration. They "escaped" and walked for about three days, only to run into some American GI's who told them that the war was over.

Guess that would explain the easy "escape!"

[beaver fever]

voir dire is meant to bar people who confess to beliefs that may prejudice the defendant.

Phil baby is a hired gun who charges out to the highest bidder with no concern for the accused.

He's a mercenary and his influence and others like him have a corrupting influence on justice.

If he is as good as everyone says he is you better hope he doesn't have a hand in choosing the jury if you are in trouble.

[durasell]

Lawyers are also mercenary as are "expert witnesses." It's set up to be an adversarial system. It isn't perfect, but it functions reasonably well.

[beaver fever]

"It tells me that he was no stranger to a good fistfight and you had the smarts to retain all of your teeth."

Are you kidding? Hockey fights are like the WWF all show and no substance.

I was working my way through my degree as a niteclub bouncer averaging three fights a week.

I was measuring the dimensions of his grave while he was blubbering in my face.

It's only because the senior partners were ten feet away that prevented me from removing him from the fossil record.

[durasell]

For a thread involving strippers, this is a little tame.

[beaver fever]

Maybe I'm showing my age by being so down on strippers. It just seems to me that going to a strip joint is like watching your ex wife peel her clothes off in front of your buddies.

It's not exciting, you aren't going to have sex with her and could care less. I just don't get the thrill.

[MedicalMess]

But... maybe just... could it be that... Oh I just don't understand!!!

[durasell]

Strip joints are what they are -- they're good for about the third or fourth stop on a bar crawl the night before a buddy gets married. As a place to do business, they're lacking if for no other reason than the obvious distraction and the noise/music, which far outweighs whatever bond is created by engaging in a small vice together.

As far as the girls are concerned -- I regularly drink in a bar where they hang out -- it's just amateur hour these days. The profession used to be filled with "wised up" chicks with street smarts. Now it's just these goofy girls looking to escape some small town.

[beaver fever]

The last good stripper I saw was in Vancouver in 1984.

She was an athlete who took a run a the pole and clipped it between her knees seven feet off the ground and held her position while waving at the crowd. She then did a no hands spiral descent and landed on her feet.

The nudity at the end was an anti climax pardon the pun.

[FOG724]

I had a girlfriend who worked with one of the big five accounting firms in the eighties.

This is not the 80s.

[durasell]

The last good stripper I saw was Tempest Storm (don't ask). The show included stand up comics.

[Exton1]

This is an attack on MEN and Testosterone by the Feminist. What they want is to neuter all men, and make females the ones in charge. It is reverse sexual harassment. By the way I do not think woman are blocked from going to strip clubs. Bring back the Macho Male.

[beaver fever]

"This is not the 80s."

Well the posted article tells me that not much has changed in the last twenty years.

I stand by my comments. Entertaining clients at strip bars either on the company dime or your own CC is unprofessional.

I find the whole 'boys will be boys' rationalle completely juvenile.

Do you think Bill Gates got where he is by holding business meetings in strip bars?

Strip bars are for carpet saleman who aren't closing so they try to bribe their clients with a cheap thrill.

[beaver fever]

"Tempest Storm?"

You totally rock!!!!!!

That is a moment in Burlesque history.

I'm so jealous.

[durasell]

The Georgia Peach herself. She must have been 60 at the time. And there were all these old guys in the audience whooping it up.