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To: blueslover

yes, you are. this discussion involves intercepts of foreign communications amongst persons who, although inside the US, are agents of foreign powers. the 4th doesn't protect that. the 4th didn't protect aldrich ames home from being searched without a warrant when clinton ordered it.


102 posted on 01/07/2006 5:52:06 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
... the 4th didn't protect aldrich ames home from being searched without a warrant when clinton ordered it.

I think in Ames case, searching his house wo/a warrant is distinguishable, based on the amount of evidence otherwise obtained, and on other facts.

The wiretapping of Ames was done WITH a warrant, and it appears that quite a bit of probable cause was obtained thereby, as well as by other searches that can be done without a warrant.

It also appears that, at the time, Congress hadn't passed a warrantless entry measure in FISA, at least accoring to Byron York's article in National Review Online.

The summary below doesn't clearly show why Clinton's FBI didn't seek a warrant for entering Ames' residence, but if the FISA court did not even have the facility to provide such a warrant, it was wise to not seek a search warrant in a court other than a FISA court.

The Ames case never went to trial, so we don't know how the courts would have ruled on the core 4th amendment justification -- although I suspect they would have found the search reasonable.

According to the affidavit supporting the arrest warrant, these activities had begun in April 1985, and continued to the time of the arrest. Ames's wife, Maria del Rosario Casas Ames, was arrested inside the residence on the same charges shortly after her husband was taken into custody. ...

The affidavit made public at the time of the arrests also confirmed that Ames had received substantial payments for the information he had provided -- money that he had used years earlier to purchase a new Jaguar automobile and a $540,000 home, with cash, in Arlington. Apparently, these seemingly large expenditures by an employee making less than $70,000 a year had not raised questions at the CIA.

The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (hereinafter "the Committee") received its initial briefing regarding the case on the day the arrests were publicly announced. The facts contained in the affidavit supporting the arrest and search warrants were summarized by representatives of the FBI. ...

On the basis of the work done by the joint task force, the FBI put an investigative team together in March 1993, and tasked the team members to acquaint themselves with the facts.

This effort led the FBI to begin an intensive investigation of Ames. Under applicable Attorney General guidelines, this meant that the FBI was able to seek authority under pertinent laws and Justice Department guidelines to employ a full array of investigative techniques against Ames. For instance, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court issued orders authorizing electronic surveillance of Ames's office and residence. Other surveillance techniques used against Ames included mail cover (i.e., deriving information from envelopes addressed to and from Ames), and a clandestine monitor installed in his car to track his movements.

On June 25, 1993, the FBI conducted a search of Ames's office at the CIA. Approximately 144 classified documents were located in his work area, most of which did not relate to his official duties.

According to the CIA IG report, by mid 1993, significant information had been obtained from the relevant financial institutions, which further implicated Ames. The completed financial analysis showed that Ames had a total income of $1,326,310 that could not be accounted for through salary and other known sources.

On September 15,1993, a search of Ames's trash disclosed a torn note in Ames's handwriting which appeared to relate to a clandestine meeting planned for Bogota, Colombia on October 1, 1993.

On September 29, 1993, in a telephone conversation with his wife, Ames said that "my visit was canceled." His wife responded, "Does that mean you retrieve something?" Ames replied, "Yeah," presumably referring to new KGB instructions setting up a an alternate meeting. The following day Ames canceled his airline reservation to Bogota.

On October 6, 1993, a search of Ames's trash turned up a typewriter or printer ribbon which contained two documents which Ames appeared to have prepared in 1992. Among other things, these documents discussed CIA personnel, access to classified information, and classified operational matters.

On October 9, 1993, FBI agents conducted a search of Ames's residence in Arlington. Among other things, this search yielded (1) a typewriter ribbon which contained a note Ames had written to his KGB contact regarding a meeting in Caracas, Venezuela in October 1992; (2) a computer document which identified a mailbox at 37th and R Streets in Washington, D.C. as a signal site, and (3) a series of computer documents regarding Ames's relationship with the KGB. These computer documents included information on clandestine communications, classified CIA operations, classified CIA human assets, and information regarding the payments previously made to Ames.

On October 12, 1993, Ames spoke to his wife about leaving for work early the next morning to "put a signal down...confirming that I am coming." FBI agents followed Ames to the mailbox, and, while not observing him making a mark, they found a horizontal mark on the side of the mailbox at 7:00 a.m. the same day. Later in the afternoon, the chalk mark had been erased.

Later in October, Ames and his wife had several discussions picked up by the wiretap on his telephone related to his trip to Bogota. In particular, his wife was concerned that border officials would detect the large sums of money he traveled with.

On November 1, 1993, Ames traveled to Bogota, Colombia to meet his KGB contact. Transcripts of telephone conversations between Ames and his wife established that Ames and his handler had, in fact, managed to meet twice while he was there; on the evening of November 1 and the afternoon of November 2.

From November 1993 until the time of his arrest, Ames was kept under virtually constant physical surveillance by FBI officers anticipating yet another passage of classified information. The investigation to date, while producing clear evidence of Ames's espionage activities, had not succeeded in producing tangible evidence of meetings between Ames and his KGB handlers. But when the FBI, working with the CIA, learned in early 1994 that Ames, as part of his CIA duties, was scheduled to attend a conference in Moscow in late February, the FBI believed they could not postpone his travel yet again without alerting him, and, thus could wait no longer to make the arrest.

On the morning of February 21, 1994, FBI agents arrested Ames in his car outside his residence. His wife, Rosario, was arrested minutes later in their residence.

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1994_rpt/ssci_ames.htm


109 posted on 01/07/2006 7:14:49 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: oceanview
... this discussion involves intercepts of foreign communications amongst persons who, although inside the US, are agents of foreign powers.

The discussion involves that, but also involves (without specificity) the possibility of warrantless surveillance of United States persons.

I can't imagine, if Abdul the Iraqi Terrorist calls Joe USA, and the conversation with Joe USA is interesting, that the government wouldn't start listening to Joe USA in case he was to call John USA or others inside the country.

I could be all wet - if the only calls being monitored are international calls where the international end is a terrorist, this is really a non-issue. It would mean that even though Joe USA is of interest, most of his calls are not monitored, and it is only when he makes an international call to a terrorist that we listen in. That scenario is an easy sell to civil libertarians, and is a very minor extension of FISA as drafted.

110 posted on 01/07/2006 7:24:09 PM PST by Cboldt
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