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Navy prosecutes officer for a 'crude' remark (delicate flower got the vapors over joke)
Washington Times ^ | January 7, 2006 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 01/07/2006 11:26:27 AM PST by pabianice

The U.S. Naval Academy has ordered a court-martial for a faculty member who made a "crude" remark in the presence of female midshipmen, even though an investigating officer recommended only administrative action.

The three criminal charges against Lt. Bryan D. Black come as the Annapolis school's superintendent, Vice Adm. Rodney P. Rempt, has announced a "zero-tolerance" campaign to rid the campus of sexual harassment. Lt. Black says he is being unfairly prosecuted as a "poster child" for Adm. Rempt's campaign. The academy filed criminal charges days after the school's board of visitors criticized Adm. Rempt after a Defense Department sexual harassment task force scolded the school. Adm. Rempt's anti-sexual-harassment policy includes urging midshipmen and staff to view for the third year straight a play called "Sex Signals." The language is so graphic that Adm. Rempt recommends that children should not attend any performance of the three-day run on campus, starting Monday. "The two-person show explores how mixed messages, gender role stereotypes and unrealistic fantasies contribute to misunderstandings between the sexes," Adm. Rempt said in a message to staff. An academy spokeswoman declined to comment on Adm. Rempt's decision to court-martial the officer. Lt. Black, who has been removed as an oceanography teacher at Annapolis, has filed an appeal of Adm. Rempt's decision with Navy Secretary Donald C. Winter. "I do not believe my case has been handled fairly on its merits or on the facts," Lt. Black said. "Rather, I believe I am the 'poster child' being held out as an example following the critical evaluation of the academy and by direct extension, its leadership and superintendent personally."

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Once this woman graduates into the fleet I certainly hope the enemy doesn't one day upset this delicate blossom with unkind words. PC is gutting the Navy I love.
1 posted on 01/07/2006 11:26:27 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

PC is gutting the Country I love.


2 posted on 01/07/2006 11:30:17 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: B4Ranch
PC is gutting the Country I love.

Sadly true however I purpose to continue "to fight the good fight" until they lay me to rest!

3 posted on 01/07/2006 11:32:30 AM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, I'll stand my ground and I won’t back down)
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To: pabianice
A sailor who made a crude remark. Now there's a capital offense.

Women who get easily offended shouldn't be in the military. That's obvious, isn't it? I guess only to me.

4 posted on 01/07/2006 11:33:46 AM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: pabianice
I was on a carrier in the Indian Ocean during the tailhook '91 scandal witch-hunt.

They made us have a one day stand-down for sexual harassment training....on a ship of 5500 men, no women.

5 posted on 01/07/2006 11:33:48 AM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Bush lied, people dyed....their fingers.)
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To: pabianice
"a "crude" remark"=three criminal charges.

I gotta know what he said. I can't think of anything dirty enough to warrant three criminal charges.

6 posted on 01/07/2006 11:34:32 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: pabianice

I wonder if the Navy would change its tune if a few thousand members resigned, "because they were afraid they too might offend a member and therefore also face criminal charges."


7 posted on 01/07/2006 11:35:03 AM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: All
PC attitudes and JAGs throughout our military are causing more problems then most can even imagine.
8 posted on 01/07/2006 11:35:20 AM PST by DevSix
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To: B4Ranch

Yeah, that is more like it.


9 posted on 01/07/2006 11:35:36 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all our troops at home and abroad!!)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

I must have the wrong year, I wasn't onboard in '91. Must google....


10 posted on 01/07/2006 11:36:10 AM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Bush lied, people dyed....their fingers.)
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To: pabianice

What's she going to do if the enemy captures her and tells her dirty jokes? Is she going to give away all the secrets.


11 posted on 01/07/2006 11:36:11 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: pabianice
The remarks created "an intimidating, hostile and offensive working environment."

Amarosa????

12 posted on 01/07/2006 11:36:13 AM PST by King Moonracer
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To: pabianice

So, What was the joke ?


13 posted on 01/07/2006 11:39:30 AM PST by oldbrowser (No matter how cynical I get, I can't seem to keep up)
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To: AppyPappy
"What's she going to do if the enemy captures her and tells her dirty jokes?"

Write to Senator McCain.

14 posted on 01/07/2006 11:39:58 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: pabianice

Remember when women demanded to be allowed to enter these institutions. It was said they wouldn't change a thing.

Hazing had been a tradition for centuries. Some of it was over the top, but much of it actually helped to build a strong toughened graduate.

Then the women entered the scene, and now it's even verboten to tell the 'wrong type' of joke.

Pansies rule!

Those who railed against allowing women to enter these institutions have been proven right.


15 posted on 01/07/2006 11:41:07 AM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: King Moonracer

Yes, Amaroosa, "IS THAT YOU?"

LMAO, good one...


16 posted on 01/07/2006 11:41:53 AM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: pabianice

Okay, I glanced at the article, and I didn't see exactly what the remark was. Was it something Freudian about the guns?


17 posted on 01/07/2006 11:42:08 AM PST by RichInOC ("...I don't want relationship, I just want BANG BANG BANG!!!")
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To: pabianice

PC has more fire power in killing our military's fighting spirit than the MSM does!


18 posted on 01/07/2006 11:43:16 AM PST by llevrok (Chutzpah, with salsa on the side.)
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To: pabianice
The Annapolis superintendent is running scared. He must be seen as running a tight "pro-woman" operation, if he has any ideas of getting his next star, so he's thrown this Lt to the wolves

I would refuse to serve under Vice Adm. Rodney P. Rempt under any circumstances

19 posted on 01/07/2006 11:44:44 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: pabianice

Its getting so bad that the military will have to recruit 25% more women so they can pull up the slack women give us one time out of the month. China is not PC and in the future are going to give us hell if it breaks out. Besides, China will have about 40 million surplus men to throw at us when the time comes and PC be damned.


20 posted on 01/07/2006 11:48:08 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: KellyAdmirer
Women who get easily offended shouldn't be in the military. That's obvious, isn't it? I guess only to me.

Women shouldn't be in the military in the first place.

21 posted on 01/07/2006 11:52:26 AM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: pabianice
Sounds like V-Ad Rodney Rempt is a chair-bound careerist suck-ass.
22 posted on 01/07/2006 11:53:07 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: pabianice
The simple solution is to neuter all midshipmen and be done with it.
23 posted on 01/07/2006 11:57:04 AM PST by D Rider
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To: DevSix
PC attitudes and JAGs throughout our military are causing more problems then most can even imagine.

I've seen JAG's at work; Promotion = Prosecution.

24 posted on 01/07/2006 12:00:02 PM PST by D Rider
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To: KellyAdmirer
Women who get easily offended shouldn't be in the military. That's obvious, isn't it? I guess only to me.

It's obvious to millions of us, even those of us who have never been in the military.

Women in the military is all going to end horribly.

I hope our country can survive the crash.

25 posted on 01/07/2006 12:00:10 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who have dementia.)
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To: pabianice

OTOH, aren't officers supposed to be gentlemen? Is it so outrageous to expect them to behave as such?


26 posted on 01/07/2006 12:05:43 PM PST by Restorer
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To: pabianice

A delicate flower. That's why she joined the military.


27 posted on 01/07/2006 12:13:32 PM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: pabianice

"zero-tolerance campaign" is PC-speak for the chilling for free speech.

Liberalism has become the Orwellian future for which they accused conservatives.


28 posted on 01/07/2006 12:14:29 PM PST by LA Conservative (Liberalism, once respectable, is now a secular cult)
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To: pabianice
The two-person show explores how mixed messages, gender role stereotypes and unrealistic fantasies contribute to misunderstandings between the sexes," Adm. Rempt said

And so the Clinton-era feminization of the panty-waist Pentagon and the military continues unabated.

29 posted on 01/07/2006 12:16:14 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RichInOC
It doesn't matter what he said. Don't you know any thing about sexual harassment. All that matters is that the woman "feels" offended.
30 posted on 01/07/2006 12:21:38 PM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: pabianice

Now I am confused.

Lt. Bryan D. Black is up on charges for a "crude remark" at the insistance of Annapolis school's superintendent, Vice Adm. Rodney P. Rempt.

However, this same Annapolis school's superintendent, Vice Adm. Rodney P. Rempt has ordered all midshipmen and staff to view for the third year straight a play called "Sex Signals." A play in which "The language is so graphic that Adm. Rempt recommends that children should not attend any performance".

How is the play any different from what was said in the supposed "crude remark"?


31 posted on 01/07/2006 12:22:06 PM PST by Petruchio ( ... .--. .- -.-- / .- -. -.. / -. . ..- - . .-. / .. .-.. .-.. . --. .- .-.. / .- .-.. .. . -. ...)
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To: Dumb_Ox

"Women shouldn't be in the military in the first place."

I see. So you only support troops with penii?


32 posted on 01/07/2006 12:22:39 PM PST by PinkoCommieScum
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To: Petruchio

This play will go over like a lead balloon with the brigade, men and women. I doubt if this female Mid has much support within her gender there. They treat everybody the same, male or female. Of course, I don't know exactly what was said either so I may be wrong.


33 posted on 01/07/2006 12:30:58 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: pabianice

C'mon guys, ease up a little! Women have a right to be in the military, too.

Of course, safety or security must never be comprised in the process! But I think the military is big and versatile enough to handle estrogen in the ranks.

That said, women must realize they're entering an organiztion that has traditionally always been male-dominated, and will continue to be.

That doesn't excuse a lack of respect for each other, though - the military is trying to mold not only men, but GENTLEMEN. So if it's a joke that you wouldn't tell to your mother, don't tell it to another woman.


34 posted on 01/07/2006 12:33:45 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: PinkoCommieScum

35 posted on 01/07/2006 12:34:02 PM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: KellyAdmirer
women should not be in the military period! I can hear the rushing sound of keyboards now!
36 posted on 01/07/2006 12:37:16 PM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: pabianice

To understand how all this came about read Kate O'Beirne's new book,'Women Who Make The World Worse'.


37 posted on 01/07/2006 12:37:33 PM PST by ardara
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To: KellyAdmirer
Women who get easily offended shouldn't be in the military.

Some of the female soldiers I worked with in Iraq were as verbally bawdy as anyone could be.

38 posted on 01/07/2006 12:38:19 PM PST by angkor
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I would refuse to serve under Vice Adm. Rodney P. Rempt under any circumstances

Yea, he appears to be a real POS.

39 posted on 01/07/2006 12:39:37 PM PST by angkor
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To: Mulch

Thing is, I really get antsy about people who feel women shouldn't be in the military. It upsets me because it seems to invalidate the choices that a lot of women have made--to help and serve their country. It's a personal thing with me, so it sets my teeth, is all. And to have someone say "Women shouldn't be there", suggests to me that they don't support said (female) troops. Kinda like people who don't support the troops 'cause they "shouldn't be there at all".

...if that makes sense. My grammar got mucked, but I hope you can see what I mean. If I misunderstood, please feel free to explain it to me--I'm a good listener, promise!


40 posted on 01/07/2006 12:41:16 PM PST by PinkoCommieScum
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To: King Moonracer
"an intimidating, hostile and offensive working environment."


I wonder what the numbnuts think war is like?
41 posted on 01/07/2006 12:41:34 PM PST by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: KellyAdmirer

It's obvious to me too. Since when do they let wussies join the Navy? May as well do like the Frenchies and just whip out our white flags.


43 posted on 01/07/2006 12:42:39 PM PST by derllak
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To: Petruchio
Don't you know it's OK to say anything, do anything if it's for the purpose of teaching people the correct way to behave?
44 posted on 01/07/2006 12:44:49 PM PST by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: pabianice

This PCBS is one of the reasons I retired as soon as I could.


45 posted on 01/07/2006 12:47:12 PM PST by aomagrat
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To: canuck_conservative
the military is trying to mold not only men, but GENTLEMEN. So if it's a joke that you wouldn't tell to your mother, don't tell it to another woman.

My experience in the military - and I think this is true of most others - is that there's a certain amount of bawdy and off-color language which helps to remove barriers and to build comradere.

I also think this is true throughout the ages, not just recently in our own time, but historically right back to the Greeks and Romans.

With the entrance of women into mixed-gender military units, who do you think is more obligated to "adjust" to military convention?

And if you think it's males, what do believe should replace this very traditional method of building comradere? Amy Vanderbilt sessions?

46 posted on 01/07/2006 12:47:23 PM PST by angkor
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To: Petruchio

Probably not all that different from school children subjected to D.A.R.E. program going to the nurse's office for their dose of Ritalin.


47 posted on 01/07/2006 12:47:33 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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To: coloradan
I wonder if the Navy would change its tune if a few thousand members resigned, "because they were afraid they too might offend a member and therefore also face criminal charges."

Such a demonstration by men is absolutely the answer.

48 posted on 01/07/2006 12:49:48 PM PST by Lester Moore (The headwaters of the islamic river of death and hate are in Saudi Arabia.)
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To: pabianice
I was talking to a fellow the other day who spent 2 yrs at West Point, and after transferring over to the darkside, now flies F-15's. I asked about the women cadets and their competency and he replied, "... they're either razor sharp or pathetic 'Affirmative Action' types."
49 posted on 01/07/2006 12:51:52 PM PST by CIBvet (Thanks to all who sat in their lawn-chairs to prove we can protect the U.S Border .... REAL Patriots)
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To: pabianice
The play - Sex Signals
50 posted on 01/07/2006 12:52:16 PM PST by bmwcyle (Gael Murphy is a bug)
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