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Vatican To Decide Embattled NYC Monsignor's Fate
wcbstv ^ | January 7, 2006 | Hazel Sanchez

Posted on 01/07/2006 4:36:52 PM PST by NYer

NEW YORK After nearly four years of fighting sex abuse charges, Monsignor Charles Kavanagh will have his day in a Church court. It's what the Vatican ordered. It's what Kavanagh wants.

"This is what I prayed for," Kavanagh said. "I understand the need in this climate for significant review. All I want is a full and fair hearing and I'll be fine."

In 2002 a former student accused Kavanagh of abusing him more than 20 years ago, when Kavanagh was head of Cathedral Prep Seminary in Manhattan.

The claims were made beyond the statute of limitations.

The Archdiocese of New York suspended Kavanagh, then pastor at St. Raymond Church in the Bronx, and pressed on with an internal investigation. They sent their findings to the judicial arm of the Vatican, which found the evidence merited a full trial by a Church Tribunal.

"It's good for the people of faith of the Archdiocese of New York," said Joseph Zwilling of the Archdiocese of New York. " They know I hope now that the Church takes those allegations very seriously."

While not overconfident, Kavanagh says the facts should exonerate him.

"I feel that if I do this honorably my name will be cleared," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abusivepriests; kavanagh; vatican
The Bronx district attorney has found no cause for a criminal proceeding against Msgr. Charles M. Kavanagh, the most prominent New York priest caught up in the Catholic Church's sexual abuse scandal.

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1 posted on 01/07/2006 4:36:53 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 01/07/2006 4:37:37 PM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer

Let me guess - they'll move him somewhere else?


3 posted on 01/07/2006 4:45:21 PM PST by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: NYer

20 years out, they are unlikely to come up with probative evidence one way or the other. If they guy has gone 20 years with no other allegations, he deserves the benefit of the doubt.


4 posted on 01/07/2006 5:26:01 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Slump Tester
Well, in your mind is a 20 year old allegation, with no other incidents at all, sufficient proof?

Unfortunately, the valid claims against some priests have brought out the nuts and the opportunists trying to get some easy money. You see the same thing sometimes when there's a bus accident - - the bus company gets more claimants than there were seats on the bus.

5 posted on 01/07/2006 5:37:29 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer
"I feel that if I do this honorably my name will be cleared,"

I like that!

6 posted on 01/07/2006 5:38:55 PM PST by OldEagle (May you live long enough to hear the legends of your own adventures.)
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To: OldEagle

I'd like it better if he said "think" instead of "feel."

"Johnny, solve this equation."

"Well, teacher, I feel that the answer should be..."

This confusion of the words "think" and "feel" is leading many to conflate thinking your way to an answer with feeling your way to an answer, which hardly ever works.

The word "feel" in a context like this is usually a big red flag.


7 posted on 01/07/2006 7:34:59 PM PST by dsc (Islamic sexual violence against women should be treated as the repressive epidemic it is.)
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To: dsc
I'd like it better if he said "think" instead of "feel."

What he may be trying to say is something like "When I look at this intellectually (THINK) I can see all the things that can go wrong (judge or jury doesn't like Catholics, people feel sympathy for a victim and cast me as villain, he is more articulate than I am), however, I know that I did not abuse that boy and I hope (and have faith)(FEEL) that I will be vindicated because I have acted honorably."
8 posted on 01/07/2006 11:16:13 PM PST by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: PAR35
20 years out, they are unlikely to come up with probative evidence one way or the other. If they guy has gone 20 years with no other allegations, he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

I agree. This one doesn't quite pass the smell test. In almost every case, there were either multiple victims or a long period of abuse and neither seems to be the case.

9 posted on 01/08/2006 4:43:56 AM PST by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: Desdemona

"In almost every case, there were either multiple victims or a long period of abuse and neither seems to be the case."

Those are significant indicators, true.


10 posted on 01/08/2006 4:58:26 AM PST by dsc (Islamic sexual violence against women should be treated as the repressive epidemic it is.)
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To: Slump Tester

Of course if someone makes a charge against a priest, he's automatically guilty. We should all forget the fact that a pedophile is not unlike a serial killer - they do not stop with just one.

Since he's a Catholic priest and other members of the clergy have committed sexual abuse and coverups of those crimes, this priest is guilty by association.

Hope you are not called for jury duty.


11 posted on 01/08/2006 5:31:02 AM PST by Brytani (Democrats - destroying America since 1868)
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To: Brytani

Yeah, your right - SO MANY of them actually get punished, disbarred, and kicked out. They NEVER just move any of the faggot ones away where no one knows about them.


12 posted on 01/08/2006 8:53:34 AM PST by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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