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To: sig226
What do they win, from their perspective, not ours? In other words, why bother? Shouldn't the most successful cell be the one that does not expend excess energy by reproducing.

No. Suppose you have a country where the natives don't effectively reproduce. (less than 2 kids per couple) They save lots of money they would have had to spend on their kids. Then some Muslims move in who produce 4 kids per couple. Sure the Muslims have to work harder and sacrifice more but what religion do you think that country is going to be after a few centuries? The answer is strength of numbers. You are doubling every generation and the other life form is holding study.  That's how a single germ manages to kill a host trillions of times its size.

 If I say that it's rare and it just took a long time to happen, I will get an F.

We know it happened from the fossil record. Why it happened is a guess. I did venture a guess, namely an alliance between two different cells gives it more of an advantage than one living alone. I suspect the first grouping of cells acted somewhat like a Portuguese Man-of-War . It's not a single creature but actually a colony of different animals acting together. We do know that once you did get multicellular animals a huge expansion of diversity was let loose. It was definitely an advantage. Funny how folks deny the existance of a puzzle because we don't have all the pieces.

49 posted on 01/07/2006 11:26:05 PM PST by Nateman ( Clinton happens.)
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To: Nateman
We know it happened from the fossil record.

And we know the Empire State Building was designed likewise. From the edifice itself which evidences a designer and design as well as the designer notebooks and blueprints themselves.

So too the fossil record -- it shows the evolution of a designer's design. Chance is sorely pressed beyond any reason to explain large jumps in the record. And changes both lage and small may indeed be evidence of an active designer, just as a chnage in construction techniques or materials between the tenth floor and the twelveth may indicate evolution of the designer's design as the building was built.

122 posted on 01/08/2006 6:09:44 PM PST by bvw
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