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MURTHA THE TURNCOAT
NEW YORK POST ^ | January 8, 2006 | KIERAN MICHAEL LALOR

Posted on 01/08/2006 6:51:06 AM PST by kellynla

LAST spring, I dropped by an anti-war rally in White Plains. When I made it clear that I was an Iraq vet who supported the war, the insults began to fly. Most slurs were boilerplate anti-war clichés, but one man struck a nerve: He marched up to me, looked me straight in the eye to ask, "You joined the military?" — and when I proudly answered "yes," responded, with utter disgust, "You are a sucker."

I felt the same rage last weekend just watching Rep. Jack Murtha declare on TV that, were he younger, he wouldn't join today's military.

I expect that kind of rhetoric from the washed-up anti-war rabble that congregate on street corners to relive their glory days — not from retired Marine colonels.

Murtha's call last year for a cut-and-run strategy in Iraq was one thing — irresponsible and unwise, but basically just stating a policy position. This is different.

What a nice New Year's treat for the beheaders and suicide bombers to know that a decorated Marine and lawmaker thinks the U.S. military is not only "broken" but not worth joining. Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi will no doubt use Murtha's words to inspire his band of thugs to hold out longer and kill a few more Americans assuring them that ultimately we will wilt like Murtha.

Why would Murtha not want to be part of a military that in the past four years has liberated 50 million souls and heroically brought aid to tsunami and earthquake victims, saving untold lives? Surely he knows that all was chaos in New Orleans in the wake of Katrina until Gen. Russell Honore's 1st Army and the 82nd Airborne came to town and provided relief and a security presence.

Evidently, Murtha doesn't think this is noble work.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; iraq; murtha; terrorism; war
"Thirty-seven years in the Marine Corps should have taught Murtha that our military has historically been and continues to be the world's greatest meritocracy. No other institution has allowed people to climb the ranks and reach their potential regardless of their socioeconomic status like the U.S. military.

Similarly, Jack Murtha should know that millions of men and women have personally benefited from the discipline, training and structure of the military and used the traits learned in uniform to make countless contributions to civil society after their service.

If Murtha wouldn't want to be a part of a military that did in Afghanistan in three months what the Red Army couldn't do in seven years and that put genocidal maniac Saddam Hussein behind bars and his brutal sociopath sons in the ground, I am glad he is not.

But he's surely undermined military recruiting. Think he'll resign his committee assignments relevant to the military?

Last year, despite a media that overemphasizes the negative aspects of the war and an organized anti-recruitment effort, the Marine Corps exceeded its recruiting goals by 2 percent. The Navy and Air Force met their goals. The Army, which fell short of expectations last year, is exceeding them in Fiscal Year 2006 (which started in October).

Fortunately for the United States, a turncoat blowhard like Murtha won't stop the tens of thousands of good men and women inspired to serve this great nation."

I couldn't agree more!

Semper Fi,

Kelly

1 posted on 01/08/2006 6:51:08 AM PST by kellynla
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To: kellynla

What is becoming clearer is that top Democrats like Murtha and Pelosi are cowards and traitors. Let's not pull any punches here. Most Dems are interested primarily in creating a Vietnam type backlash against this war.

They want to relive the late sixties and early seventies. They see this as their path to power. Frankly, since Watergate and Vietnam have shown that the only way the Dems can win national elections is through scandal, that's what they and their allies in the MSM must protray.

What a bunch of losers.


2 posted on 01/08/2006 6:56:35 AM PST by kjo
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To: kellynla; leadpenny; BufordP; bmwcyle; BillF; Christopher Lincoln; kristinn; tgslTakoma

kellynla - thanks for posting

You other people - just sharing


3 posted on 01/08/2006 6:56:45 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Democrats would rather whine than win)
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To: kellynla

My 20 years Air Force service taught me a number of important lessons. One of the primary ones was to ignore the idiots like Murtha. Surprisingly enough, most Americans know what patriotism looks like and can spot the phonies like Murtha and his anti-American ilk 9 out of 10 times!


4 posted on 01/08/2006 6:58:36 AM PST by borisbob69 (Old shade is better than new shade!)
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To: kellynla

Turncoat is the appropriate term. He might've been admirable at one time, but his past does NOT explain his current behavior. He was roped in by the communists disguised as the Demonratic Party, and that's pretty much it.


5 posted on 01/08/2006 6:59:24 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: kellynla

Sadly Murtha has made himself into scum...Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Reid, Boxer....and now Murtha. Traitors who seek power but will find they get Islamic fundamentalism instead. It is coming. They have a plan. You get what you tolerate.


6 posted on 01/08/2006 7:01:19 AM PST by Rapscallion (Ninety-nine percent of Congress and the Senate give the rest a bad name.)
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37 years in the Corps doesn't give Murtha a pass on everything he says and does for the rest of his life.
After all, Lee Harvey Oswald was in the Marine Corps too.
And Benedict Arnold was a patriot at one time also.

Semper Fi,
Kelly


7 posted on 01/08/2006 7:04:12 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

The liberal hypocrisy is breathtaking. If a conservative dare criticise Murtha for his statements, he is met with an indignant "How dare you question a man who served his country?" Yet, they do not hesitate to practically spit on a veteran who doesn't share their viewpoint. Where is their much-vaunted "respect" for the military?


8 posted on 01/08/2006 7:07:16 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: AmericanChef

Benedict Arnold was a decorated war hero before he turned----


9 posted on 01/08/2006 7:07:24 AM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: kellynla
Try this for the full article (the links above didn't work for me): Murtha the turncoat.
10 posted on 01/08/2006 7:17:38 AM PST by TheGeezer
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To: TheGeezer

Thanks!
I posted the balance of the piece in my comments.


11 posted on 01/08/2006 7:20:10 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
Murtha is now senile.

His pride hurt (he stated he resented now being given an ear by the White House on how to conduct the war), he is now venting his spleen and the gases it contains.

A shame, too, is that he will be remembered now not as a hawk Democrat in an age in which the Democrat Party is mostly anti-American, but as a foil of victory and an aid to he enemies of the United States.

12 posted on 01/08/2006 7:21:11 AM PST by TheGeezer
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To: TheGeezer




the rest ----
I expect that kind of rhetoric from the washed-up anti-war rabble that congregate on street corners to relive their glory days — not from retired Marine colonels.
Murtha's call last year for a cut-and-run strategy in Iraq was one thing — irresponsible and unwise, but basically just stating a policy position. This is different.
What a nice New Year's treat for the beheaders and suicide bombers to know that a decorated Marine and lawmaker thinks the U.S. military is not only "broken" but not worth joining. Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi will no doubt use Murtha's words to inspire his band of thugs to hold out longer and kill a few more Americans assuring them that ultimately we will wilt like Murtha.
Why would Murtha not want to be part of a military that in the past four years has liberated 50 million souls and heroically brought aid to tsunami and earthquake victims, saving untold lives? Surely he knows that all was chaos in New Orleans in the wake of Katrina until Gen. Russell Honore's 1st Army and the 82nd Airborne came to town and provided relief and a security presence.
Evidently, Murtha doesn't think this is noble work.
Or, rather, the congressman doesn't like the way Iraq is going, so he disparaged the entire military — forgetting about our sailors working tirelessly to keep the seas open, Marines bravely guarding our embassies and soldiers standing watch in Korea and elsewhere to protect the democratic from the despotic.
Thirty-seven years in the Marine Corps should have taught Murtha that our military has historically been and continues to be the world's greatest meritocracy. No other institution has allowed people to climb the ranks and reach their potential regardless of their socioeconomic status like the U.S. military.
Similarly, Jack Murtha should know that millions of men and women have personally benefited from the discipline, training and structure of the military and used the traits learned in uniform to make countless contributions to civil society after their service.
If Murtha wouldn't want to be a part of a military that did in Afghanistan in three months what the Red Army couldn't do in seven years and that put genocidal maniac Saddam Hussein behind bars and his brutal sociopath sons in the ground, I am glad he is not.
But he's surely undermined military recruiting. Think he'll resign his committee assignments relevant to the military?
Last year, despite a media that overemphasizes the negative aspects of the war and an organized anti-recruitment effort, the Marine Corps exceeded its recruiting goals by 2 percent. The Navy and Air Force met their goals. The Army, which fell short of expectations last year, is exceeding them in Fiscal Year 2006 (which started in October).
Fortunately for the United States, a turncoat blowhard like Murtha won't stop the tens of thousands of good men and women inspired to serve this great nation.
Kieran Michael Lalor is the founder of Eternal Vigilance Society (eternalvigilancesociety.org), an independent organization supporting leaders who put protecting the nation ahead of politics.


13 posted on 01/08/2006 7:28:44 AM PST by larryjohnson (USAF(Ret))
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To: kellynla
In politics, things do not remain static. For Murtha and Dems to keep in the news, they have to shift their positions increasingly to the left. From: 1) We should redeploy, to 2) The War is Unwinnable, to 3) People should never enlist, to ... I suppose the next step is 4) People in the military are baby-killers and should be shunned and spat upon. Already some are tipping their toes in that water (Kerry), but look for it to become more prominient in the year to come.
14 posted on 01/08/2006 7:31:58 AM PST by PMCarey
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To: kellynla
..Thirty-seven years in the Marine Corps..

He may have been a warrior once; now he is just a fat old dog, doing tricks to get his belly rubbed.

15 posted on 01/08/2006 7:35:16 AM PST by MrNatural ("...You want the truth!?...")
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To: kellynla
Related thread with links to videos:


VIDEO: ANOTHER VET TELLS OFF MURTHA/MORAN
16 posted on 01/08/2006 7:35:52 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: kellynla

We will not be defeated on the battle field. The enemy is within.


17 posted on 01/08/2006 7:36:08 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: kellynla

The difference is that Oswald did not fire a rifle on 11/22/63, Murtha, the NYTs, WaPo, and the rest of the MSM are engaged in a conspriacy to take down this president.

Their agenda is very clear.


18 posted on 01/08/2006 7:38:30 AM PST by kjo
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To: kellynla

BTTT


19 posted on 01/08/2006 7:40:52 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: kjo
We don't know what Oswald did or did not do, what he thought he was going to do, or much except how he died.

But Murtha fits the Benedict Arnold comparison perfectly. Even if he only spent 33 in the reserves with two call-ups he paid his dues. (As opposed to the Christmas in Cambodia former candidate).

Nevertheless, having you feelings hurt and turning on the institutions you swore to protect is about as low as it gets.

20 posted on 01/08/2006 7:49:14 AM PST by norton
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To: TheGeezer

I think it's dubious calling someone a "Democrat hawk" when the person has for sometime been diverting funds for the military to his own pocket via his friends and relatives. That's not my definition of a "hawk" of either party.


21 posted on 01/08/2006 7:54:51 AM PST by penowa
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To: kellynla
Murtha, Moran, Pelosi and all the other democrats are just doing what comes naturally to democrats (for over the last 30 years or so, since Vietnam anyway)--giving 'aid and comfort' to the enemies of the US.

But with them doing it during a time of war is just outrageous.

How can they NOT possibly realize that they are providing encouragement to our enemies?

Democrats get more disgusting by the day.

22 posted on 01/08/2006 8:02:21 AM PST by stockstrader
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To: kellynla
Up to the point that Murtha said he wouldn't join the military and said no one should, I gave him the benefit of the doubt on his views. No more. I consider him a traitor, a coward and a disgrace as a Congressman. He is certainly no longer a Marine, he is an EX-MARINE.
23 posted on 01/08/2006 8:02:55 AM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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To: jazusamo

Use it or lose it applies to military power. An inactive military is full of opportunists and promotions are based on politics. There is no doubt in my mind that four years of war footing deployment is radically changing the "ARMY OF ONE" into a disciplined and effective fighting machine. Many careers are being enhanced based on performance and the leaders of the future are being forged. Those who serve and leave are also profoundly affected. My mother said my dad learned to pick up his socks in the army in WWII. Yet we hear none of who is distinguishing themselves, even though they will be leaders tomorrow.


24 posted on 01/08/2006 8:14:42 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: kellynla
Jack Murtha declare on TV that, were he younger, he wouldn't join today's military


Then thank GOD he is not younger. He brags about visiting the injured at Walter Reed. If I were a family member of an injured soldier there I would request that this bastard not be allowed to breath the same air, much less visit my son or daughter. How dare he brag about his visits to our injured troops and then announce to the world in so many words that they were suckers for joining up. I say he should no longer be allowed into Walter Reed.
25 posted on 01/08/2006 8:20:03 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: ClaireSolt

I couldn't agree with you more.


26 posted on 01/08/2006 8:24:34 AM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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To: jazusamo
Murtha, Pelosi, along with Teddy Kennedy, all suffer from DEMENTIA and belong in mental institutions. They are too far gone to be rehabilitated in prison. Murder has no Statue of limitations, so how come Teddy Kennedy still walks the streets? Murtha is a total disgrace to the Marine Core, He deserves a firing squad.
27 posted on 01/08/2006 8:28:36 AM PST by herkbird (Semper Fi)
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To: borisbob69
Murtha is the DNC darling. As the DC Chapter witnessed last Thursday, they are looking for the new champion to cut and run from the war. The cowards are many and ignoring them is not the answer. They are not going away soon.
28 posted on 01/08/2006 8:31:17 AM PST by bmwcyle (Gael Murphy is a bug)
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To: herkbird
There has been much hoopla about Murtha's Marine service. Maybe it's all true , but it would sure be interesting to see his file.
29 posted on 01/08/2006 8:32:15 AM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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To: kellynla

"37 years in the Corps doesn't give Murtha a pass on everything he says and does for the rest of his life.
After all, Lee Harvey Oswald was in the Marine Corps too.
And Benedict Arnold was a patriot at one time also."

You said it ALL with that Kellynla.


30 posted on 01/08/2006 8:45:55 AM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270, God Bless America and All Who Have and Will Defend Her.)
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To: kjo

Murtha let his emotions sweep him away. I submit he is less a traitor to his country than he is a congressional slacker who is emotionally paralyzed from doing his work on behalf of the servicemen and women. He is the natural result of too many men watching Oprah.


31 posted on 01/08/2006 9:10:37 AM PST by steve8714 (Burn Peugeot, burn.)
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To: PMCarey

32 posted on 01/08/2006 10:47:13 AM PST by devolve (<-- (-in a manner reminiscent of Senator Gasbag F. Kohnman-)
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To: kellynla

Murtha = Kerry - Take II


Murtha is doing exactly what Kerry did when we were in Vietnam WINNING THE WAR!


33 posted on 01/08/2006 11:21:57 AM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: kellynla
Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi will no doubt use Murtha's words to inspire his band of thugs to hold out longer and kill a few more Americans assuring them that ultimately we will wilt like Murtha.

Coincidentally the last week has seen a big upsurge in "insurgent" attacks. Words have consequences.

34 posted on 01/08/2006 11:38:00 AM PST by TigersEye (You don't have to believe everything you think.)
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To: kellynla
Pork does not come from hawks. Pork comes from pigs.

And for years, when liberal "journalists" wanted an example of bring home the bacon and dishing out the pork, they wrote about John Murtha.

35 posted on 01/08/2006 12:15:48 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Raoul's First Law of Journalism: BIAS = LAYOFFS)
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To: jazusamo
There has been much hoopla about Murtha's Marine service. Maybe it's all true , but it would sure be interesting to see his file.

All I can find is 10% of it active duty, one year of it in Vietnam with docrations. There's a mention of Captain Murtha taking over the 314th Special Infantry Company but nothing beyond that.

Most of his Marine career is a black hole...

36 posted on 01/08/2006 12:18:14 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Raoul's First Law of Journalism: BIAS = LAYOFFS)
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To: kellynla
The Congressman is quoted saying that the U.S. Army is "broken, worn out" and "living hand to mouth."

Sign Idea for a counter-Freep of Murtha:

        MURTHA:
    "BROKEN, WORN OUT,
  LIVING FOOT IN MOUTH"

37 posted on 01/08/2006 1:51:20 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (The heart of the wise man inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. - Eccl. 10:2)
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To: kellynla

"We cannot win this war for England, regardless of how much assistance we extend."

Charles Lindbergh, April, 1941


"You cannot win this thing militarily. Most of [U.S. troops] will be out of there in a year if I have my way."

John Murtha, November, 2005


38 posted on 01/08/2006 2:00:41 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: kellynla

Murtha is saving his crooked ass...he was to be investigated for crimes he's committed through his serving as a congressman; influence pedaling of contracts to family companies due solely because he's in congress and is on the committee/s and helped to award those contracts. This is highly illegal, however, if republicans now go after him in congress...the rats will scream it's because he came against the iraq war. He's nothing more than a self serving bassturd....


39 posted on 01/08/2006 2:00:51 PM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
Thanks for sharing.

:-)

40 posted on 01/08/2006 4:30:25 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

Thanks for the ping


41 posted on 01/09/2006 4:03:50 AM PST by BufordP ("I am stuck on Al Franken 'cause Al Franken's stuck on me!" -- Stupid)
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To: shield; kellynla

You probably know this........Robert "Kit" Murtha,brother of John, a senior partner at KSA Consulting. Not earth shattering info,just a few interesting tidbits.

Go to profiles

http://www.ksaconsulting.net/

I tend to think Murtha needs to be investigated. Why is he a turncoat? More than senility,etc. Sounds more like money(greed).

JMHO

BAF


42 posted on 01/09/2006 12:23:50 PM PST by BARLF
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To: kellynla

Mr Murtha, how much did it cost Al Qaeda to buy your loyalty? What is the price of the honor of a Marine officer? Somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 pieces of silver?


43 posted on 01/09/2006 12:27:03 PM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: kellynla; All
Jack Jane Murtha.
44 posted on 01/09/2006 12:29:34 PM PST by aculeus
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To: Farmer Dean
MAJOR GENERAL Benedict Arnold was a decorated war hero before he turned----
45 posted on 01/09/2006 12:35:42 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (All Your Base Are belong To Us. Make Your Time.)
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To: Rapscallion

"Sadly Murtha has made himself into scum..."

Scum rises to the top -- guess it is true in Benedict Murtha's case! I had never heard of him until he started spewing his anti-war-anti-military screed.


46 posted on 01/09/2006 12:46:24 PM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: kellynla

Bottom line...........Murtha is a COWARD! He isn't fit to use the honorable title of U.S. Marine!


47 posted on 01/09/2006 12:49:19 PM PST by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: kellynla

The behavior of the RATS is disgusting! What burns me up even more is that there is not more of a public backlash amongst the American people against these traitorous scumbags. I wish I could see one million supporters show up in DC and shut these POS's up.


48 posted on 01/09/2006 7:12:01 PM PST by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: StoneColdTaxHater

well I would be happy if folks would just come out in November and vote these POS out of office!


49 posted on 01/09/2006 7:27:04 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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