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New partnership better than Kyoto: Macfarlane
Australian Broadcasting Corporation Online ^ | January 9, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 01/08/2006 11:40:10 PM PST by La Enchiladita

The [Australian] federal Industry Minister says the Asia-Pacific Partnership on Clean Development and Climate will have a greater impact on greenhouse gases than the Kyoto Protocol.

The partnership brings together Australia, Japan, China, India, South Korea and the United States.

Ian Macfarlane says Australia's decision to join the partnership will prove to be a far better move than signing the Kyoto accord.

"The reality is new technology will deliver three times the savings in greenhouse gas as the Kyoto Protocol will," he said.

"Things like geosequistations, solar energy, better utilisation of the newer technologies that are going to see more efficient electricity production and more efficient electricity consumption."

The partnership's inaugural meeting will be held in Sydney on Wednesday.

It will be chaired by Mr Macfarlane and US Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman.

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has withdrawn to concentrate on issues in the Middle East.

Mr Macfarlane says while Dr Rice's absence is disappointing, it will not affect the resolve of the six nations to cut greenhouse emissions.

"That's a disappointment in terms of the overall diplomatic process," he said.

"But ... we will be making sure that every opportunity is put in place for a business-government partnership to set our path forward, to ensure we do produce results and reduce greenhouse gases of our whole globe."


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: asiapacific; australia; biomass; china; environment; india; japan; solarenergy; southkorea; usa
An alternative to the Kyoto accord ... maybe this is more workable ... can't the U.S. send someone else in Condi's stead?
1 posted on 01/08/2006 11:40:12 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

WHy send anyone? This is merely the same sh*t in a different sack.


2 posted on 01/09/2006 12:03:47 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: GladesGuru

"WHy send anyone? This is merely the same sh*t in a different sack."

No, it's not. this accord relies on technological advances in alternative energies rather than Kyoto's draconian cutbacks of current uses of fossil fuels.

This new accord does nothing to injure the economies of the countries that sign on. Kyoto, if followed, would have been economically devastating, which is what the left-wing proponents of it intended.


3 posted on 01/09/2006 3:53:57 AM PST by Neville72 (uist)
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To: Neville72

It IS the same nonsense - because anthropogenic climate change is nonsensical. The Macfarlane is just less economically crippling nonsense, that's all.


4 posted on 01/09/2006 4:25:19 AM PST by agere_contra (A loaf of bread now costs $85,000 Zimbabwean dollars. Wait: that was last week.)
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To: GladesGuru
WHy send anyone? This is merely the same sh*t in a different sack.

President Bush is squarely in support of the Asia-Pacific Partnership. He has talked about it on many occasions. This is old news, move along now.

5 posted on 01/09/2006 4:28:31 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Neville72

My assumption, with which I was in error to have assumed you knew, was that the entire CO2 schtick is merely Communism Lite in another guise.

You may find it interesting to note that 95% of plants are C 3 photosynthetic metabolism, that said evolved and was genetically fixed in an atmosphere of some ten times present CO@, and that plants have been "fixing" CO2 ever since.

Such "fixing" is why I sit in the Everglades atop some 14,000 feet of limerock, all deposited one tiny bit at a time.

Burning carbon fuels increases the available amount of CO2 for plants. Every doubling of atmospheric CO2 produces at least 30% more plant growth. How much increased plant production would you like?


6 posted on 01/09/2006 10:02:08 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: GladesGuru

Condi isn't going because she's a LITTLE bit preoccupied with the growing Iranian threat...

This is a better partnership and we need it. No harm in looking into alternative means of producing energy. Shhh... don't tell, but there are some conservatives on this site who are also fervent conservationists.


7 posted on 01/09/2006 4:28:01 PM PST by La Enchiladita (it's okay to not have a tagline...)
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To: agere_contra

My only argument would be with your statement that the Asia-Pacific accord is "less economically crippling". In fact, it's not economically crippling at all.

Moreover, if the push for alternatives hastens the day when we are off the fossil fuel tit and the oil sheikdoms are as politically insignificant as sub-Saharan Africa and we can tell tinhorn, moonbat dictators like Hugo Chavez to f*&k off and go take a swim in his oil, then we'll all be better off.


8 posted on 01/10/2006 2:56:19 AM PST by Neville72 (uist)
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