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US army in Iraq institutionally racist, claims British officer
Guardian ^ | 1-12-06 | norton/wilson

Posted on 01/12/2006 12:01:58 AM PST by wardaddy

A senior British officer has criticised the US army for its conduct in Iraq, accusing it of institutional racism, moral righteousness, misplaced optimism, and of being ill-suited to engage in counter-insurgency operations. The blistering critique, by Brigadier Nigel Aylwin-Foster, who was the second most senior officer responsible for training Iraqi security forces, reflects criticism and frustration voiced by British commanders of American military tactics.

What is startling is the severity of his comments - and the decision by Military Review, a US army magazine, to publish them.

American soldiers, says Brig Aylwin-Foster, were "almost unfailingly courteous and considerate". But he says "at times their cultural insensitivity, almost certainly inadvertent, arguably amounted to institutional racism".

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; army; britain; iraq; terror; terrorism
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To: wardaddy
Changing the Army for Counterinsurgency Operations, Brigadier Aylwin-Foster's article in Military Review.
21 posted on 01/12/2006 12:49:32 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Quo Fas et Gloria Ducunt)
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To: wardaddy

Here's the link for the "Military Review" piece mentioned in the Guardian article:

http://usacac.leavenworth.army.mil/CAC/milreview/download/English/NovDec05/aylwin.pdf


22 posted on 01/12/2006 12:49:47 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

15 seconds.


23 posted on 01/12/2006 12:50:32 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: DTogo
What he calls a sense of "moral righteousness" contributed to the US response to the killing of four American contractors in Falluja in the spring of 2004. As a "come-on" tactic by insurgents, designed to provoke a disproportionate response, it succeeded, says the brigadier, as US commanders were "set on the total destruction of the enemy".

(from the article)

I can see his thinking here, and he may have had a point- but I haven't seen the bridge-corpse-hanging incident repeated. We must've hit them hard enough to have gotten the point across.

The US Armed Forces aren't there to negotiate. They're there because negotiation failed, and force was required. When you have to put down a vicious dog, you don't fart around with talk and half-measures. You get it done.

We do 'total destruction of the enemy', because it works. It's that simple.

24 posted on 01/12/2006 12:57:17 AM PST by Riley ("What color is the boathouse at Hereford?")
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To: wardaddy

The Ghost of Monty still thinking 'they know best'...


25 posted on 01/12/2006 1:09:49 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: wardaddy
I read about this, this morning, while I don't agree with how he said it.

One thing is true we both my country and yours need to look at each others tactics, and to see what does and doesn't work irrespective of national pride.

As a aside from what I have seen and heard about the USMC they are using a mixture of both American and British COIN tactics in dealing with the terrorist/insurgency problem.

26 posted on 01/12/2006 1:24:51 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: Riley
Death and destruction is the only language the enemy understands. Anything less they consider an opportunity.
27 posted on 01/12/2006 1:28:40 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: wardaddy

I am glad the US army give our men battle IQ instead of "sensitivity" IQ.

This is a divisive attack, but let me fall for it a minute.

As for the Brit military, how many Latino and black officers do they have? N'oug said.


28 posted on 01/12/2006 1:44:45 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: Riley

As a "come-on" tactic by insurgents, designed to provoke a disproportionate response



Ok, how else are we to treat terrorists? It's not in the numbers but in the principle. Another barf alert comment.

1. Actualy we held back at Fallujah... and had we not Zarqawi would be dead. Holding back made him a hero.

2. Terrorists are laughing at u here

3. The "come on" tactic is the only tactic working against guerrillas: let them ambush small special forces in great numbers, and then blow them out in such big packets using air power. It were the contractors who came in there first and it is the terrorists who dragged themselves there.


29 posted on 01/12/2006 1:51:03 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: wardaddy

Sounds like a Montgomery Wanna-be.


30 posted on 01/12/2006 1:56:07 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: wardaddy
... and the horse you rode in on!
31 posted on 01/12/2006 1:57:13 AM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: wardaddy
British soldiers winning hearts and minds:

ABOVE: The soldier identified as Lance Corporal Mark Cooley aims a punch at an Iraqi detainee bound from the waist up in blue netting.
ABOVE: L/Cpl Cooley drives a fork lift with an Iraqi tied to the front, his upper body bound in netting. He said he was moving the man "out of the sun".

32 posted on 01/12/2006 2:01:27 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 31-69)
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To: wardaddy

LOL lets get the Middle East sorted out then refight the American War of Independence.


33 posted on 01/12/2006 2:04:28 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: wardaddy
From the article:

While US officers in Iraq criticised their allies for being too reluctant to use force, their strategy was "to kill or capture all terrorists and insurgents: they saw military destruction of the enemy as a strategic goal in its own right". In short, the brigadier says, "the US army has developed over time a singular focus on conventional warfare, of a particularly swift and violent kind".

Well duh...

and this

What he calls a sense of "moral righteousness" contributed to the US response to the killing of four American contractors in Falluja in the spring of 2004. As a "come-on" tactic by insurgents, designed to provoke a disproportionate response, it succeeded, says the brigadier, as US commanders were "set on the total destruction of the enemy".

He calls it moral righteousness and I call it educating the enemy (or eliminating them)...you kill one of us, we kill a hundred of you...

Brigadier huh???? Guess he proves feces do float to the top...

34 posted on 01/12/2006 2:14:05 AM PST by Abundy
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To: wardaddy
You all might at least show as much intelligence about this article as the publishers of Military Review who published it.

An ally was making a point and giving his views on how American fighting power could be enhanced.

Only an idiot doesn't listen to advice from his best friend. Doesn't mean he has to take it...

35 posted on 01/12/2006 2:19:06 AM PST by Philistone (Turning lead into gold...)
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To: seamole; RippleFire; Bedford Forrest; Cacique; Khurkris; pacpam; SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch; ...
Professor Nagl's War [LONG]
36 posted on 01/12/2006 2:19:25 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Quo Fas et Gloria Ducunt)
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To: DevSix; Sarajevo
Ping! Brit counter insurgency criticism.
37 posted on 01/12/2006 2:56:37 AM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: tonycavanagh; wardaddy; Gringo1; Matthew James; Fred Mertz; Squantos; colorado tanker; The Shrew; ..
. . . the Army needs to learn to see itself as others do, particularly its actual or potential opponents and their supporters. They are the ones who need to be persuaded to succumb, since the alternative approach is to kill or capture them all, and that hardly seems practicable, even for the most powerful Army in the world.

Thank you Brigadier Aylwin-Foster, for pointing out a plain fact that so many Americans have difficulty recognizing.

Don't get hung up on the Guardian's bogus title, read the Brigadier's words. I think he is on our side and is trying to help us out.

38 posted on 01/12/2006 3:04:45 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Quo Fas et Gloria Ducunt)
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To: wardaddy

kinda sounds like penis envy to me.


39 posted on 01/12/2006 3:25:54 AM PST by dropzone
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
The US army, he says, is imbued with an unparalleled sense of patriotism, duty, passion and talent. "Yet it seemed weighed down by bureaucracy, a stiflingly hierarchical outlook, a predisposition to offensive operations and a sense that duty required all issues to be confronted head-on."

A fair assessment. I wonder what he thinks of the US Marines – all the above but (hopefully) less bureaucracy.
40 posted on 01/12/2006 3:28:31 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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