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Ed Meese Takes Chris Matthews Head On 1/12/2006 (Cleans Matthews' Clock)
www.freerepublic.com | January 13, 2006

Posted on 01/13/2006 9:08:20 AM PST by Howlin

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To: antiRepublicrat
But he and his supporters are following the Clinton playbook,...

Pray tell doing what?

121 posted on 01/13/2006 2:29:22 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: antiRepublicrat
Do you have a loyalty to Bush that requires you to defend him when he or his supporters are wrong or dishonest?

He hasn't done anything wrong or dishonest with regards to this one specific issue, and if supporting him on that fact sets your hair on fire, that's your problem.

All you've done is try to equate Bush as some Clinton clone. You need a new schtick or go find some other thread to post in.

122 posted on 01/13/2006 2:33:51 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
All you've done is try to equate Bush as some Clinton clone.

You haven't been reading. I've equated the speech of Bush and his supporters to Clinton's style, such as what the definition of "is" is.

123 posted on 01/13/2006 2:36:39 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Doesn't matter. It's the interception itself by any means, including electronic devices, that matters. That is what is covered by the wiretapping laws, and what is generally referred to as wiretapping.

Course it matters. If I sat here and recorded my next door neighbors phone calls, it's not illegal. What is illegal is if I turned those tapes over for public consumption either through the sale of such tapes, or given to the national or local media for playback, or blabbed around the rest of the neighborhood what I overheard "last night on my phone".

Go ahead, plug a computer into your neighbor's VOIP phone line and start recording everything he says. Don't listen, just record. Then turn yourself in and see whether you get prosecuted under the federal wiretapping laws.

You're assuming the neighbor even HAS a VOIP line to begin with. You'll also be the fool who turned yourself in. There's a difference between government officials wiretapping and private citizens wiretapping. You're just an idiot with a computer.

124 posted on 01/13/2006 2:44:20 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: r9etb
So I guess this means we should put you down on the side of "don't try to figure out what the bad guys are trying to do to you."

Put a new column down, label it "He ain't got a clue" and put his screen name under there.

125 posted on 01/13/2006 2:46:18 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the ping. Meese sure did a great job. Chrissy wasn't about to give up though. Same Dem talking points. Can't prove his point on the wiretapping, so he had to jump to Plame, thinking that one is still a winner.

Truly pathetic.


126 posted on 01/13/2006 2:52:16 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: antiRepublicrat
Please differentiate between being against Bush, which I'm not, and criticism of certain actions and speech on the part of him and his supporters.

What part of Bush's actions do you distrust? And please, confine your answer to this one subject alone. I don't care about all your other beefs, I've certainly heard them all, and believe all of it to be BS.

127 posted on 01/13/2006 2:52:19 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: antiRepublicrat
You haven't been reading. I've equated the speech of Bush and his supporters to Clinton's style, such as what the definition of "is" is.

My, my, that's certainly an impeachable offense if I ever saw one.

C'mon! Sheesh, you can do better than that.

128 posted on 01/13/2006 2:54:33 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
If I sat here and recorded my next door neighbors phone calls, it's not illegal.

Same referenced law:

"(1) Except as otherwise specifically provided in this chapter any person who - (a) intentionally intercepts, endeavors to intercept, or procures any other person to intercept or endeavor to intercept, any wire, oral, or electronic communication; ... shall be punished as provided..."
Actual disclosure is in subparagraphs after (a). Interception alone is illegal. I hope for your sake you haven't already done that.

You're assuming the neighbor even HAS a VOIP line to begin with. You'll also be the fool who turned yourself in.

You're trying to get away from the point. I used VOIP for those people who say the technology's changed. I don't care if you sniff it out of the air or attach a splitter to his POTS line, it's still illegal.

There's a difference between government officials wiretapping and private citizens wiretapping.

No there isn't. They're both illegal, except for the part about "Except as otherwise specifically provided," which references provisions that allow legal government interception of communications under certain circumstances.

129 posted on 01/13/2006 3:01:05 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Appeals panel rejects secret court's limits on terrorist wiretaps

From Terry Frieden

CNN

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 Posted: 1:24 AM EST (0624 GMT)
CNN's Kelli Arena says a U.S. appeals court ruling allows broad wiretap authority in the hunt for terrorists (November 18)

Justice appeals court ruling limiting information sharing


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States has broad authority to use wiretaps and other surveillance techniques to hunt for suspected terrorists, a federal appeals court panel ruled Monday.

In a 56-page opinion overturning a May decision by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the three-judge panel said the expanded wiretap guidelines sought by Attorney General John Ashcroft under the new USA Patriot Act law do not violate the Constitution. (More on the USA Patriot Act)

The ruling by the special panel from the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia gives broad surveillance authority to counter-intelligence and counter-terrorism investigators to track individuals considered potential national security threats.

"Our case may well involve the most serious threat our country faces," the panel declared.

The reversal of May's decision by a federal judge represents a victory for the Justice Department and the FBI, which were harshly criticized by the lower court judge for its handling of wiretap applications, and their interpretation of the authority granted the government by the USA Patriot Act


http://archives.cnn.com/2002/LAW/11/18/spy.court.ruling/


DUH ON YOU.


130 posted on 01/13/2006 3:04:44 PM PST by Howlin
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To: BigSkyFreeper

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131 posted on 01/13/2006 3:06:26 PM PST by Howlin
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To: antiRepublicrat

I'm talking relevant law, specifically during a time of war.


132 posted on 01/13/2006 3:06:51 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: Howlin; antiRepublicrat

Right. Republicrat is citing law that governs private citizens.


133 posted on 01/13/2006 3:09:59 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: Howlin

Loved it, thanks for the post. I don't expect chrissy will have Mr. Meese back on anytime soon. A mega thank you to Mr. Meese.


134 posted on 01/13/2006 3:13:39 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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marking


135 posted on 01/13/2006 4:23:53 PM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: Over 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: Howlin

Between the "malaria" his most recent "sickness" I truly believe that Chris is hitting the bottle hard.


136 posted on 01/13/2006 5:15:22 PM PST by CaptainK
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To: Howlin

MEGA Meese and mega Howlin'

Thanks

:)


137 posted on 01/13/2006 5:32:58 PM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: antiRepublicrat
This issue has politicians on Bush's side getting more Clintonesque every day

Now that is pure BS!

138 posted on 01/13/2006 5:39:59 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Howlin
Thanks for the ping. I also like this exchange regarding the Plame investigation:

MATTHEWS: OK. Why did the agency go to the FBI?

MEESE: I have no idea.

Another lingering question without an answer.

139 posted on 01/13/2006 5:54:41 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Dolphy

I do not trust the CIA anymore; even with Porter Goss over there.


140 posted on 01/13/2006 5:57:19 PM PST by Howlin
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