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President Bush this is what you should do-
Marze Por Gohar ^ | Mani Aryamand

Posted on 01/15/2006 3:50:23 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports

Islamic Republic (IR) is working around the clock on its nuclear program, while Mr. ElBaradei suggests that US should provide a guarantee to the Islamic Regime. The IR nuclear project is the only guarantee for regime’s survival. The regime in Tehran will do everything in its power to make sure that it posses the nuclear bomb, which will serve as the guarantee for the Islamic Regime to stay in power. There should be little doubt left about the regimes ideological goals; having Mr. Ahmadinejad in power, the regime is not shy to express its views about the infidels and the Jews.

Only Two months after Mr. Ahmadinejad expressed the regimes wish to wipe Israel off the map, he called the Holocaust a myth, and proposed the Jews should move to Europe or Alaska.

The chairman of the Council for Preserving the Constitution, Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati clearly expressed that only Shiites were human beings and the rest of the worlds infidels were corrupt animals which should be destroyed. Infidels, he said, were evil monsters which ruined the planet earth.

The Islamic Regimes support of the various terrorist organizations is no longer a secret, even the European Union who have enjoyed the lucrative deals as long as they could are beginning to get worried about this regime. The ideological utopia of the Islamic Regime is simple and clear: an Islamic world without infidels and Zionists. While the regime has had 27 years to plan and test tactics to get closer to its ultimate goal, the western countries are only recently starting to wonder what to do.

Muhammad ElBaradei confirmed on December 5, 2005 Israel's estimation that Islamic Republic is only a few months away from creating an atomic bomb. If Teheran indeed resumed its uranium enrichment in other plants, as threatened, it would take only a few months to produce a nuclear bomb, El-Baradei told The Independent.

Mr. Elbaradeis rather naïve belief that a security offered to the IR will prevent IR from lodging its long term goals is wrong. Not even the Islamic Republic is in line with ElBaradeis plans as it is coming out of the closet with overt support and brazen allegiance with terrorist organizations. Hammas political chief declared in Tehran: “Hammas vows revenge if Iran is attacked.”

While the undeclared war is taking place on Iraqi soil to stall any coherent policy on Iran, the US allies are hoping in quiet desperation for stability in Iraq. The Islamic Republic will ensure that the US forces pay a high price in casualties by using its vast network of various terrorist organizations and erode domestic support here in the US by the help of American print and TV news media the majority of which seem all too eager to jump on the band wagon, obfuscate the real issue, exploit the negative news and shape the public opinion against the administration.

Trying diplomacy with Islamic Republics Tehran is as effective and practical as beating a dead horse; it is a one-way, dead-end street. Russia, once the power house of the former Soviet Union, is eagerly awaiting the outcome of the nuclear issue with IR and will continue to supply the Islamic Republic with arms and military technology and help along their nuclear developments.

Russia and Iran control a significant percentage of the world’s oil and natural gas supply. Their alliance with a surly and very energy-hungry Asian dragon China will be an axis to recon with. Also, China and Russia will veto any referral to Security Council and by the time they decide to reconsider, it will be literally too late.

So, any action from the UN’s Security Council seems unrealistic; the only immediate option is a military attack which probably will not completely destroy the numerous strategically located and well hidden sites of the Islamic republic. When asked why US fighter jets do not bomb Iranian nuclear targets on their own from aircraft carriers in the region, former justice department prosecutor and intelligence expert John Loftus replied: ”that's a real good question that has been carefully studied. There are over 360 separate targets inside Iran that have been identified. Most of them are non-vulnerable – many underneath residential neighborhoods and Islamic shrines. These are not places we can bomb. The Iranians were paying attention when Iraq's reactor was bombed and have learned the lessons.”

Meanwhile, experts and the Iranian opposition unanimously believe that a military strike is not the solution on Iran and it may delay but not stop Islamic Republics nuclear bomb project. It will serve to rally the fence riders behind hardliners. The Mullahs will come back with a vengeance, this time armed with nuclear weapons…

The only option that remains is regime change.

However the time is running out very fast.

The first thing that needs to be done is to officially adapt the regime change policy. Next, abandon the wild goose chase of a negotiation, shine the light on the EU and help them see the light and adapt the same policy of regime change in Iran.

Iranians and the opposition are able to bring the regime to its feet on their own, in due time. Iranian people are longing for democracy and freedom and with the right support this can happen much sooner, at the right time and avert a potential disaster for the middle east and Israel in particular.

Mraze Por Gohar Party hinted at a plan to overthrow the regime two years ago and we are still able to put our plan into action but the time is fast running out and the window of opportunity will be lost soon. And this time the Iranian people may not be the only victims.

Mani Aryamand Party Secretary Marze Por Gohar Party Iranians for a secular republic www.marzeporgohar.org


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1 posted on 01/15/2006 3:50:25 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports

Welcome to Free Republic.


2 posted on 01/15/2006 3:55:23 AM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: eastforker

Thank you very much! :)


3 posted on 01/15/2006 4:09:29 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports

Would the majority of Iranians support the US flying in and destroying various nuclear infrastructure targets in their country? Would they support Isreal doing a bomb run on those targets, too?


4 posted on 01/15/2006 4:17:42 AM PST by KillTime (Western Civilization herself breathes a sigh of relief as President Bush wins 4 more years.)
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To: KillTime

As the article above indicates, IR learned their leasson from what happned in 1981 in Iraq. They have more than 300 different sites which ic impossible for Israel and US to target. The Air strike is a dead end street and the administration should focus on the one and only option: REGIME CHANGE!


5 posted on 01/15/2006 4:22:04 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati clearly expressed that only Shiites were human beings and the rest of the worlds infidels were corrupt animals which should be destroyed. Infidels, he said, were evil monsters which ruined the planet earth.

Boy, substitute Hitler and Jews for the Ayatollah and infidels, and here we go again. Except, of course, that Hitler had the organization and industrial might of a twentieth century European country to execute this vision, whereas the Ayatollah lives in a stone-age world with AK-47's as accents to their backwardness.

6 posted on 01/15/2006 4:28:28 AM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: Hardastarboard

Well, I agree with you that Ayatollah are comparable with the Nazi regime. However do not underetimate these animnals.
So far they have managed to play with the europe and US and the game is far from over!


7 posted on 01/15/2006 4:32:30 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports

One does not have to bomb all 300+ sites; there are a handful of sites that could be attacked that would destroy their nuke capability for years, enough time for the Iranians to Regime Change their own country for the benefit of the world.


8 posted on 01/15/2006 4:34:13 AM PST by KillTime (Western Civilization herself breathes a sigh of relief as President Bush wins 4 more years.)
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports

This is a very well thought out vanity. Welcome to FR.


9 posted on 01/15/2006 4:35:52 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Hardastarboard

You are kidding right. Iran ain't no Iraq or Afgahnistan.They have been gearing up for some time now. Iam not saying they couldn't be defeated but, at what cost. Factor in possible russia or china alliance and/or support.This is a dangerous time and there are no easy answers. Iran is not as backwards as you might think.


10 posted on 01/15/2006 4:37:35 AM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: KillTime

If the sites are bombed and the regime is still in power I garantee you that the hell is going to break loose.

With ready mercenaries and cells all over the world they are able to make it happen. The have predicted all these steps as they had this planing from the early days of revolution.

I dont even wnat to think of the consequenses if the regime is still in power after being attacked. It would be like a hurt beast ready to to everything...


11 posted on 01/15/2006 4:37:59 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports

Where are the moderate voices in the muslim world? Silence is unspoken approval.

Where is the muslim leadership?

Bush can't do it all.


12 posted on 01/15/2006 4:38:49 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf (http://bloodlesslinchpinsofislamicterrorism.blogspot.com))
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To: Paul C. Jesup

thank you for your welcome, logic and fact would help your comment alot!


13 posted on 01/15/2006 4:40:28 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: tkathy

This is what you get! Islam is a religion that from it orgin has been speard with the force of sword. Today the sword is replaced with nukes.

Dont look for help from religion to stopp a religious regime,instead look what the opposition to this madness has to say.


14 posted on 01/15/2006 4:43:21 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports

If you don't like the regime you are living under, then, by golly, change it yourself. There are enough Iranians who have had it with the present regime that could change it themselves if they had a burning desire. Apparently, that desire does not burn bright enough, or things would never have gotten to this state.


15 posted on 01/15/2006 4:45:55 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports

Bookmark to read after church... welcome to FR


16 posted on 01/15/2006 4:48:36 AM PST by DocRock
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To: freeangel

If you read his profile I believe he is living in exile. Unlike here if you speak out against the leadership they simply put you in jail, or worse. Kind of hard to get a group together when you are constantly under the microscope.


17 posted on 01/15/2006 4:49:23 AM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: freeangel

Dont ry to bale the Iranians. It is not easy to overthrow a regimne when all the europiand and Clinton for that matter supported in exchange for lucrative contracts. ( Eventhough hte clinton admin never got that far)

The news is, Iranians suffered under this regime for 27 years , they got stoned to death, hanged, shot and the world only watched. This time the Iranians are not the only victims. Next time people where ever in the world sent of their children to scholl it may be their last time....


18 posted on 01/15/2006 4:50:03 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: DocRock

Thank you for your welcome! :)


19 posted on 01/15/2006 4:51:14 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
"If the sites are bombed and the regime is still in power I garantee you that the hell is going to break loose."


And if the sites are not "neutralized", all hell is going to break out.


Iran is in need of an attitude adjustment. It's called living in peace with your neighbors.


I believe Israel and the US not only must neuter Iran, they have an obligation to do so.


Now don't go getting your pants in a wad over my comments. I'm not President Bush.





20 posted on 01/15/2006 4:58:19 AM PST by G.Mason (Did the illegal worker in that burger place, spit on it before, or after he pick it up off the floor)
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To: G.Mason

:) the only way to change the attitude of this regime is to replace it with a secular democratic one. The experience of the past 27 years have made it clear the IR ideological goals: Destroy Isreal and infidels!


21 posted on 01/15/2006 5:04:09 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: KillTime
I concur with you, KillTime. In addition, we could always threaten to do this: I'M NOT ADVOCATING THIS, JUST PUTTING IT ON THE TABLE
22 posted on 01/15/2006 5:32:38 AM PST by TheRobb7 (The American Spirit does not require a federal subsidy.)
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
Next time people where ever in the world sent of their children to scholl it may be their last time....

I think you seriously misunderestimate the will of the North American Redneck. Iran is and has been a festering sore on the backside of the USA since the late 1970's. We should have flattened Tehran back in 1979 after they committed an act of war against us, but unfortunately, this is yet another of Carter's legacys we've yet to live down.

If the people of Iran, who vastly outnumber the Theocrats in charge, want change, then they'd better rise up and do it and do it quickly.

The threats you cite regarding Iranian terror cells committing acts in this counrty, if allowed to come to fruition, will only result in the complete and utter destruction of your country and the wrath of the American Redneck against anything and everything Muslim in this country.

This is not 1979 and Jimmy Carter is not President. Iran will never, ever be allowed to have a nuclear bomb. Take that to the bank. Iran, IMHO, is about to learn a very valuable lesson about poking the sleeping giant in the eye.

Is the Iranian Theocracy aware of the firepower of just one Trident Submarine?

23 posted on 01/15/2006 6:30:27 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports

Tick, tick, tick...heartbreaking for ordinary Iranians who just want a decent life.


24 posted on 01/15/2006 6:32:18 AM PST by hershey
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports

Iran probably built schools, apartment buildings, and hospitals on top of nuclear sites. They couldn't care less about their own people.


25 posted on 01/15/2006 6:34:15 AM PST by hershey
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports

But when the US tries to change things in the Middle East, the rest of the world yells bloody murder, so we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. In the end, the world will stand by and hold Uncle Sam's coat, then blame him whatever the outcome. But make no mistake, the President said loud and clear and more than once, that nothing was off the table...including the use of force.


26 posted on 01/15/2006 6:38:11 AM PST by hershey
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports

I don't know if there will be enough time to wait for the Iranian people to rise up to overthrow the nutjobs ruling Iran, but I don't see why we can't provide support to any group that wants to overthrow the Mullahs.


27 posted on 01/15/2006 6:41:01 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports

Good luck. I hope the secularists in Iran get the upper hand on the insane government before they get a nuke. The entire country will suffer terribly if they don't, because all will be killed, not just the insane government.


28 posted on 01/15/2006 6:44:06 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Thermalseeker

you seem to be little off in this issue.

Iranian people and Amricans are on the same side and to day it is in everyone interest to have a regime change.

Now, I rather have dialouge which has to do with this matter and not imaginary military games!


29 posted on 01/15/2006 6:53:53 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: hershey

Yes indeed, there are report that they have build site close to shrines and civilian aras, the last thing mullahs care about it the Iranian people!


30 posted on 01/15/2006 6:55:08 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: hershey

The Europian countries have showed their true nature even during the Iraq war. Rememebr the french who after the liberation wanted a piece of cake?

I am in Europe myself and i know the nature of europians, I once asked one of my europian friends why they ahve double moral and he replied it is good since if we loose the one we have the other one!!!

Forgett about the this and that aftermath, the americans will win the friendship of Iranian who already are very pro-american people.


31 posted on 01/15/2006 6:58:02 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Brett66

me neither!!!! We are bele to overthrow the regime but the time is running out!!!

Thank you for your support!


32 posted on 01/15/2006 6:59:04 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Cyber Liberty

I hope that the administration realize that the regime change is the best option and that faaast!!!


33 posted on 01/15/2006 7:00:08 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports

Welcome to FR. Many of us support an Iran free of the Mullahs.


34 posted on 01/15/2006 7:02:43 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim ("We're a meat-based society.")
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
I want to see regime change too and believe that's the best solution.

Is that Mossadeq in the photo of your party member? Do you believe Mossadeq had connections with the Soviets? I understand there are arguments between the pro-Shah Iranians and the pro-Mossadeq. How do you see things politically? You are secular. Good.
Would you consider yourself or your party to be liberal?
35 posted on 01/15/2006 7:04:53 AM PST by Brooklyn Kid (What's it to ya? ) ((....west of the Jordan, east of the Rock of Gibraltar.................))
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
Iranian people and Amricans are on the same side and to day it is in everyone interest to have a regime change.

I am fully aware of both the history of Iran and the current situation and I agree that regime change is in everyone's best interest. I am also aware of what will happen to your country if you allow the radicals in charge to launch an attack, particularly a nuclear attack, against us or Israel, on behalf of your country. You should be aware of this too. Do not for one minute underestimate the lengths we will go to to protect our way of life.

It has been widely reported by sources both inside and outside Iran that the numbers of those in opposition to the current Theocracy are great. It is high time that these masses forcefully stand up to the Theocracy and quit waiting for the rest of the world to do it for them. If our military has to do it, you won't like the result. However, I'm sure if the opposition in Iran rises up and makes a serious stab at overthrowing the Theocracy, rather than just paying it lip service, our support and the support of other like minded nations will be there. People in the opposition are going to have to be willing to die in large numbers to overthrow this regime and you simply cannot sit back and expect our soldiers to die for your revolution. It is, after all, your fight to fight, not ours. I would strongly suggest that all like minded Iranians do everything in their power to not make it our fight. If you do, I guarantee you will not like the result.

36 posted on 01/15/2006 7:14:18 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Thank you! Good to hear that


37 posted on 01/15/2006 7:15:04 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Brooklyn Kid

Marze Por Gohar want to establish a secular Republic.
We believe that all democratic parties should be able to function.

As for mosadegh he was a true nationalist he did a lot of good for Iran and he had mistakes the same goes for shah.
We believe that we have to see ahead and as things are looking right now shah and Mosadegh deed are our last problem.

You may find much more on our website:
http://www.marzeporgohar.org/index.php?l=1&cat=21&scat=114
http://www.marzeporgohar.org/index.php?l=1&cat=21&scat=76
and more...


38 posted on 01/15/2006 7:21:05 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
I must confess that I doubt the ability of an internal problem doing the job....

:^(

39 posted on 01/15/2006 7:21:35 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
It is not remotely impossible to bomb 300 targets. The USAF destroyed the entire oil industry in Germany in a matter of months, in 1944. Our technology for it is vastly superior to what it was then. If the nuke drive is not stopped by domestic insurrection and the US does not decide to invade conventionally to effect regime change that way, the US can readily destroy the Iranian nuclear program from the air.

I'd prefer regime change by insurrection too. But the record of peoples rising up against totalitarian regimes with thousands of tanks and dedicated paramilitaries, it singularly bad. The usual result is 5000 to 50000 dead and no change in regime, in days or months. It takes serious commitment to military action, weapons, and may potentially also require US air support, as it did for the northern alliance in Afghanistan. Are you ready for that?

Because the idea that these nuts are going to go quietly because of people in the streets with flowers chanting slogans, is a dream and completely unrealistic, and will not happen. No more than rallies in Tianamen square brought down communism in China, or protests in 1991 toppled Saddam.

40 posted on 01/15/2006 7:25:08 AM PST by JasonC
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To: Thermalseeker

well my friend, talk is cheap! Iranian have time after time showed their hatred for the mullahs.

At this time I think the way things look like the Bush admin are going in the wrong direction so dont be surprised if you soon have mullah with nuke and a craze mind such as mullahs should scare you. They will lend any resources they want to terrrorist to care out the attack.
You are correct the opposition is great and it has been for the last decade while nothing has be dine to support them. On the countrary until 6 month a go IR had the full support of the europians. I admire President Bush for standing tall and firm against the mullahs and his speeches are great but action is long due.

At this moment the Iranian are tired and gopeless as they have fought this war along without any actuall help, any uprising without the help from outside is unlikely.
We would hate to see that our country get attacked and you hate to see your fellow country men get killed, we have the same view here and there are ways to avoid this. One action is to support the oppsotion to deal with mullahs after all Iranian have had a long experience with these bastards.


41 posted on 01/15/2006 7:29:36 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
Trying diplomacy with Islamic Republics Tehran is as effective and practical as beating a dead horse; it is a one-way, dead-end street.

But Dubya EXCELS at beating dead horses...
Lookit how he keeps our economy plodding along, just by throwing worthless money at it!!!

The only option that remains is regime change.

But it would be more "compassionate" to offer them a "free trade" agreement.
Just explain to Mr. Ahmadinejad how such a scheme could benefit his personal bank account, and even HE will forget about Islam.
EVERYBODY has their price at which they can be bought-off.
Heck, it's worth a try...
Afterall, it's not as if Americans will ever be able to repay their National Debt anyway...

42 posted on 01/15/2006 7:37:07 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: JasonC

Things which can go wrong will go wrong.
take alook at this article:
http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20060112-094747-3687r

As you see the best thing is regime change as we agree. The details can be worked out nad when 85% is against the regime things may go fast!


43 posted on 01/15/2006 7:38:35 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Willie Green

You must look ahread in time and democracy and secularism in the middle east is the answer to a better world.
You should not be after to cover the problem but to SOLVE it.


44 posted on 01/15/2006 7:40:33 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Thermalseeker

As the japanese admiral supposedly said after bombing Pearl Harbor: "I am afraid we have awakened a sleeping tiger and only strengthened its resolve."

If Iran's posture moves to nuclear action...Iran will meet the tiger regardless of the liberal bleeding heart mindset.


45 posted on 01/15/2006 7:41:54 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
I am not the slightest bit worried about what communists say in the press, nor about the non-existent Iranian air force, nor about the USAF's entirely imaginary inability to hit whatever it pleases as long as it takes. Iran has no power that scares the US. Our domestic political issues with our own traitors are the only limit we face. I'd vastly prefer a new pro-US regime in Iran and have since 1979. But wishes are not horses. If you and your friends don't get off your backsides, expect pain. The US is not going to be deterred by biased editorials nor pipsqueek threats from Iran.
46 posted on 01/15/2006 8:07:21 AM PST by JasonC
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
well my friend, talk is cheap! Iranian have time after time showed their hatred for the mullahs.

You are absolutely right. Talk is cheap and merely protesting in the streets of Tehran isn't going to overthrow the Theocracy. It will take armed resistance from within and so far your opposition movement doesn't seem to have the will to take up arms against the Mullahs. You should not make the mistake of lumping the United States in with the European appeasers. To them, talk is very cheap, but when it gets right down to it, the Europeans will not even defend themselves, much less your opposition movement. It will take an armed rebellion from within your country. Your people must have the will to violently overthrow the Mullahs, regardless of how long you have hated them and what you have done to oppose them up to this point. It is your fight now, but if your opposition movement allows the Mullahs to launch an attack or series of attacks against the United States or Israel on behalf of Iran as a country, particularly if those attacks involve nukes, it will be our fight then and as I've said I guarantee you will not like the result.

The future of Iran is in your hands, not ours. It is your country, not ours. You had better be willing to give your life for your cause, otherwise your country may very well cease to exist in the not too distant future. I would respectfully suggest that you and others like you get busy. There is a lot to do and time is of the essence.....

47 posted on 01/15/2006 8:13:27 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: JasonC
If you and your friends don't get off your backsides, expect pain. The US is not going to be deterred by biased editorials nor pipsqueek threats from Iran.

Well said!

48 posted on 01/15/2006 8:15:22 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: JasonC

If the opposition is not assisted and the course with is pursued right now ( UN) is followed one day you will wake up and read the headline you never thought you will read!


49 posted on 01/15/2006 8:31:08 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Thermalseeker

I try to say this as simple as possibe!

Without help the oppsition cant do much!!!Why? 27 years of fight have wore people out...

A nuke Islamic republic will be your problem as well and dont have to much hopes of Us handling this alone...

You need the help of the Iranian opposition while the opposition need your help! win-win situation dont make it complicated for yourself!


50 posted on 01/15/2006 8:34:09 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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