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Mexican troops defiant: 'Border? What border?'
WorldNetDaily ^ | January 15, 2006 | unknown

Posted on 01/16/2006 7:29:03 AM PST by kindred

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Sunday, January 15, 2006

HOMELAND INSECURITY Mexican troops defiant: 'Border? What border?' Military 'crosses into America 216 times during past 9 years'

Posted: January 15, 2006 8:39 p.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

The Mexican military has little regard for the border as troops have entered the United States 216 times over nine years, according to a Department of Homeland Security document and a map of incursions.

California's Inland Valley Daily Bulletin says U.S. officials claim the border-crossings are designed to help foreign drug and human smugglers gain safe access into American territory.

While the White House refused comment, a spokeswoman for the DHS said her department is in ongoing discussions with the Mexican government about the incursions.

"We – the Department of Homeland Security and the CBP (U.S. Customs and Border Protection) – are determined to gain control of the border and will continue to collaborate with our partners on the border,'' Kristi Clemens told the paper.

The document indicates since 1996, Mexican military personnel made their way into the U.S. at the following Border Patrol sectors:

San Diego County, 17 times

El Centro, 58

Yuma, Ariz., 24

Tucson, Ariz., 39

El Paso, Texas, 33

Marfa, Texas, 8

Del Rio, Texas, 3

Laredo, Texas, 6

Rio Grande Valley, Texas, 28. "That number [of 216] is 20 times larger than even the Minuteman project organizers are aware of,'' said Jim Gilchrist, co-founder of the Minuteman Project, a civilian group concerned with border security. "But I'm not surprised at that number. There are significant drug and human cargo cartels involving Mexican military threatening Americans at the border. But our Congress has turned a blind eye to it because what the American people don't know won't bother them – that's how our representatives think.''

One border agent speaking on condition of anonymity told the Bulletin: "We've had armed showdowns with the Mexican army. ... These aren't just ex-military guys. These are Mexican army officials assisting drug smugglers.''

Officials with Mexico's government dispute the findings, claiming not a single crossing has been made by its troops.

"I strongly deny any incursion by the Mexican military on United States soil,'' said Rafael Laveaga, spokesman for the Mexican Embassy in Washington, D.C. "When it comes to Mexican military on the southern side, I have no reports of them crossing into the United States. That would mean that the patrol got lost or lack of expertise and orientation. This could be smugglers with fake uniforms as a tactic to confuse the authorities.''

U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., said the high numbers of incursions show suggestions for increasing Border Patrol resources or building a border fence won't be enough to secure the boundary between the U.S. and Mexico.

"It is a military problem,'' said Tancredo. "We should commit the military to the border – tomorrow. I mean, with armor and weapons.''


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; immigrantlist; mexicantroops
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[There are significant drug and human cargo cartels involving Mexican military threatening Americans at the border. But our Congress has turned a blind eye to it because what the American people don't know won't bother them – that's how our representatives think.'']

True, unfortunately. What the American people don't know won't hurt them? I think it will hurt all of us in a short time.

1 posted on 01/16/2006 7:29:05 AM PST by kindred
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To: HiJinx; Spiff; idratherbepainting; AZHSer; Sabertooth; Marine Inspector; A Navy Vet; ...

Those of us who live right along the border have beed trying to get the word out maybe now someone will listen and seal the border.


2 posted on 01/16/2006 7:36:06 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: kindred

With the appointment of John Magaw to Homeland Insecurity, it's sure to hurt some of us real soon, and in a way that (almost)nobody expected.


3 posted on 01/16/2006 7:37:25 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Nobody will be asked.)
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To: kindred

"Discussions" my a$$. One warning, then shoot on sight.


4 posted on 01/16/2006 7:38:37 AM PST by beethovenfan
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To: kindred

Lets put some Special Forces teams down there and pull off a few ambushes. Parade the casualties and prisoners in front of Fox and his cronies and see if they still deny it. Even if they still deny it, it'll definitely slow down the incursions.


5 posted on 01/16/2006 7:39:14 AM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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To: kindred

I really don't envy you chaps - it's difficult enough defending an Island like Britain from illegal entry which by the grace of God has always been protected by the English channel, but 1951 miles of mainly desert?


6 posted on 01/16/2006 7:39:35 AM PST by PaxBritannica
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To: kindred
The Mexican military has little regard for the border as troops have entered the United States 216 times over nine years

Entered? If a military crosses a national border, isn't that an INVASION????? It certainly is an incursion.


Mexican military is helping the Mexican drug trade, which is also helping terrorists.

Notice this:

"Osama's people" crossing into US from Mexico?
  Posted by conservativecorner
On 01/16/2006 8:51:46 AM CST · 13 replies · 316+ views


Jihad Watch ^ | Jan. 15, 2006 | Not Cited
He denies it all now. It is unclear why he would have asserted it all in this phone call, however, if it were not true. Of course, there could be any number of reasons. But this case bears monitoring. "Infiltration from the south feared: Terrorist smuggling denied by admitted drug runner," from The Brownsville Herald, with thanks to Richard: Officials are pointing to records in a South Texas drug case with alleged terrorist ties that they say underscores the lack of preparedness here. The attorney for a jailed Gulf Cartel member cited in the incident, however, says his client was...

7 posted on 01/16/2006 7:40:30 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: kindred

"I strongly deny any incursion by the Mexican military on United States soil,'' said Rafael Laveaga, spokesman for the Mexican Embassy in Washington, D.C. "When it comes to Mexican military on the southern side, I have no reports of them crossing into the United States. That would mean that the patrol got lost or lack of expertise and orientation. This could be smugglers with fake uniforms as a tactic to confuse the authorities.''

One simple way to find out Jose.... Let them run into a US Marine Ambush, slaughter the jackasses down to the last man and then send the bodies back to the Mexican Government.

One way or the other we'll know within days whether it's the Mexican Military or not.


8 posted on 01/16/2006 7:40:36 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: PaxBritannica
always been protected by the English channel

True, but now you've got the Chunnel.....

9 posted on 01/16/2006 7:43:06 AM PST by 1066AD
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To: PaxBritannica

It amazes me.

If we started enacting a shoot-on-sight rule for border crossers, military and otherwise, it would stop pretty damned quick.

I don't think the Mexican military would try to retaliate, either, as we could easily defeat them in a skirmish.


10 posted on 01/16/2006 7:44:52 AM PST by RockinRight ("It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc" - Coulter)
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To: 1066AD

Hopefully the UK doesn't get an influx of French Muslims through the Chunnel...


11 posted on 01/16/2006 7:45:27 AM PST by RockinRight ("It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc" - Coulter)
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To: kindred

Re-task all of our trigger-happy DEA and BATF agents.


12 posted on 01/16/2006 7:47:25 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: kindred

The White House doesn't see fit to comment on this? Okay, when will they? When the Mexican army takes D.C.?


13 posted on 01/16/2006 7:48:12 AM PST by hershey
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To: kindred
Europe has its own problems. [It needs to re-read its history from around 700AD to 1400AD.]

Europe should accept its Muslims
  Posted by traumer
On 01/16/2006 9:16:05 AM CST · 16 replies · 217+ views


al-jazeera ^
Amidst the turbulence of war and violence marking todayÂ’s world, culture has turned into the great mask behind which hides a racist agenda at home and an expansionist policy abroad. In the name of culture, BushÂ’s wars turn into a noble mission to bring democracy to the culturally hostile Middle East, while BlairÂ’s draconian crackdown on civil liberties becomes a necessary defence of "our British values" against cultural and religious aggression. The same dichotomy has dominated Western political discourse since the Enlightenment era, fuelled by the climate of European military and economic expansion. The dichotomy between

14 posted on 01/16/2006 7:48:23 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: RockinRight

You mean the MSM won't cover these incursions? I'm shocked. Not.


15 posted on 01/16/2006 7:48:40 AM PST by kjo
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To: Eaker; Squantos; Travis McGee

border ping


16 posted on 01/16/2006 7:50:42 AM PST by Covenantor
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To: kindred

"Borders? We doan need no steenkin' borders!"


17 posted on 01/16/2006 7:52:34 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: kindred

Where are Generals Winfield Scott and Zachary Taylor when you need them again?


18 posted on 01/16/2006 7:53:34 AM PST by teacherwoes (If you can read this...thank a caring teacher)
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To: kindred

BTTT!


19 posted on 01/16/2006 7:59:52 AM PST by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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WorldNetDaily - consider the source...

OTOH, I have second-hand knowledge from a reliable source of incursions here in Cochise County. The only thing I would even consider disputing with this article is the number of incursions...not that they've actually happened.

20 posted on 01/16/2006 8:02:54 AM PST by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Valentine's Day ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~)
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