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To: Tailgunner Joe
Why Are Darwinists So Afraid of Intelligent Design?

The advocates of "Intelligent Design" are ignorant, dshonest, or both.

11 posted on 01/16/2006 8:41:13 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering)
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To: Oztrich Boy

The advocates of "Intelligent Design" are ignorant, dshonest, or both.

Now, now. I support Intelligent Design. I am ignorant (on things in general, not anything specific), but not dishonest. Geez, get it right, will you?:)


30 posted on 01/16/2006 8:50:50 PM PST by moog
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To: Oztrich Boy
The advocates of "Intelligent Design" are ignorant, dshonest, or both.

How so, I can quote observable, demonstable and qualitative examples. If ID were dishonest, then the laws of choas would be true. The Universe would be a homogenius mass of Hydrogen, Helium and the such. We see the opposite, we see gas clouds collapsing due to gravity to form stars. We see stars use Nuclear Fission to create heavier atoms, until they reach Iron. Now, anyone can tell you that Fe is a more complex atom than H or He.

Dinosours had primitive hearts, digestive systems, brains, ect. Modern reptiles exhibit not only more complex hearts, they can tolerate greater changes in temperature than what we have learned that Dinosaurs could.

From evolution, we see that single cell organisms evolve to create colonies; further evolution shows that these colonies eventually 'specialize'; thus becoming more complex.

These examples fly in the face of the 2nd law of Thermodynamics. Specifically, this law states that everything in any given environment tends to go from an ordered state, to a state of homogenius pressure, temperature and a state of balanced forces. I submit that a solar system is a more ordered state than a gas cloud.

51 posted on 01/16/2006 9:00:19 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
You have it backwards. It's the Darwinist religious fanatics who are ignorant, dishonest or both. Darwinism is a religious belief that has nothing to do with science. Darwinists have adopted the beliefs of various groups and covered them with a pseudo scientific veneer. The idea that current species once looked different comes from various North American beliefs. The idea of humans being descended from monkeys/apes comes from ancient Tibetan beliefs. The Darwinist belief that all life has a common origin is pure religion and is scientifically impossible if life developed without the aid of some Intelligence. A "natural" process would have been able to produce many different life forms from scratch independently from each over a long period of time. The life forms observed after mass extinctions could have developed from scratch as new species if life developed "naturally". Most Darwinists seem incapable of understanding what Intelligent Design means. I.D. looks at biological life and recognizes that the only physical systems that are comparable to biological organisms in terms of structure and regularity of operation are the machines constructed by human beings, generally considered to be intelligent beings. The biological cell is a biochemical computer with molecular memory that is organized in a manner that can be expressed as "0's" and "1's".
358 posted on 01/17/2006 12:00:32 AM PST by reasonmclucus (solving problems requires precise knowledge of the cause and nature of the problem.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

One thing we know for sure about Intelligent Design. It casues people to lie.


439 posted on 01/17/2006 7:33:34 AM PST by joesbucks
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