[SteveMcKing]

Darwinists accept the fact that evolution and the bible can not be straightforwardly resolved. So do Creationists.

IDers insist on making the two fully compatible -- whatever nonsense it takes.

[mnehring]

Ders insist on making the two fully compatible -- whatever nonsense it takes.

Interesting adjective, I would look at it as that IDers look that there can be a reconciliation in the spiritual and the scientific and those items can be bridged by further understanding of science and religion, not stuck into 17th century thinking of both.

[r9etb]

IDers insist on making the two fully compatible -- whatever nonsense it takes

Nope. Typical strawman.

IDers would suggest that the two are not incompatible, I suppose, but from a purely scientific perspective there is no need to invoke the Bible at all... Unless, of course, there are motives other than science at play.

[moog]

Darwinists accept the fact that evolution and the bible can not be straightforwardly resolved. So do Creationists.
IDers insist on making the two fully compatible -- whatever nonsense it takes.

I think you make some great points and connections. Yes, I am an ID'er and I do make connections. I've never had any problems with evolution whatsoever. I simply put it as man's way of understanding of one of God's processes. Can I prove it? NO. ID depends on some science being true, but it chiefly depends on the existence of God (sorry that "higher power" is none other though some insist it isn't God). That was not "proven" to me, but I came about it through faith. I don't attempt to "prove" my position because no one else can understand how I reached it because it is a faith-based position. Thereby, I can respect one's belief that is different from my own and ask that they do the same.