Posted on 01/17/2006 8:01:45 AM PST by Thanatos
The ACLU had announced on Tuesday, November 16, 1999 that it will create a website called "www.echelonwatch.org". This website would chronicle all uses of the Planetary Evesdropping system used by the United States to monitor Phone Calls, Cell Phones, Satellite Communications around the world. This is the "NSA Evesdropping" system that's in the news today.
The ACLU had an extensive Library of documents, archives, news articles, links to congressional testimony and was the place to go for this information. That is until now. The ACLU is deleting all this information off the website. It had chronicled all this information and is now hiding it from the public.
Why?
This is probably the reason: NSA Spying on Americans Is Illegal (12/29/2005)
On December 29, 2005, the ACLU decided to jump on the "Let's get Bush Impeached" bandwagon and published this ad in the NY Times:
Today, January 17, 2006, the ACLU Filed suit in Federal Court in two cities to "Stop" the United States from intercepting communications From international Terrorist calling their allies within the United States.
ACLU sues to stop domestic spying program
Why would the ACLU delete their extensive website on Project Echelon? The answer is simple, they are arguing that all this "Spying on American Citizens" started with the Bush Administration, they do not want evidance unearthed that proves that the Clinton Administration and every Administration has used these "Wiretaps" to protect American Citizens since the invention of the Telephone.
And no, Al Gore did not Invent the Telephone.. No matter what he says, he didn't.
What a GREAT find! Superb!
Bump!
Bump.
Use the Wayback Machine!
http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
Put www.echelonwatch.org into the search box and click on Go.
Documents are shown back as far as 2000.
Great post!
They must have forgotten about www.archive.org...
they can delete it from the website but if it was there then the "way back machine" will have a snapshot of it back then.
bwaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa!
My favorite is the Communist party USA, where for ages, MoveOn.org was listed on the front page as their ACTION wing of the CPUSA.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030719052730/http://cpusa.org/
I'm not so sure anything has been deleted. I'm getting a "connection refused" response from the links on their echelon website but that doesn't necessarily mean files have been deleted.
The ALCU thinks it can operate like the old Soviet Union altering 'history' and making inconvenient persons 'disappear'. They forgot; 1984 is history.
Maybe someone from FR should archive some of this stuff, too. The ACLU is pretty slippery, and they could threaten the regular archivers with lawsuits.
Not that FR needs another lawsuit, either. But it would be good to have this preserved somewhere.
BTTT ...later read
Awesome! I presume you have that page saved in such a way as to preserve it through the ages? BUMP for great freeping!
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States has broad authority to use wiretaps and other surveillance techniques to hunt for suspected terrorists, a federal appeals court panel ruled Monday.
In a 56-page opinion overturning a May decision by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the three-judge panel said the expanded wiretap guidelines sought by Attorney General John Ashcroft under the new USA Patriot Act law do not violate the Constitution. (More on the USA Patriot Act)
The ruling by the special panel from the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia gives broad surveillance authority to counter-intelligence and counter-terrorism investigators to track individuals considered potential national security threats.
"Our case may well involve the most serious threat our country faces," the panel declared.
The reversal of May's decision by a federal judge represents a victory for the Justice Department and the FBI, which were harshly criticized by the lower court judge for its handling of wiretap applications, and their interpretation of the authority granted the government by the USA Patriot Act.
The ruling represents a setback to the American Civil Liberties Union and National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, which had filed briefs opposing the government's position, but there was no immediate decision whether the case would be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court.
The link works; the page has not been deleted. The properties of the link show two "http://". Just right click the link, go to properties, and C/P the link with a single "http://" into another window or tab.
The graduates of Commie-Martyrs High School (ACLU) are now trying to shape public policy for our Nation's defense against terrorism?
Yeah, that'll work. I'm feeling safer already./s/
Right. Mustn't let the public get properly informed, or they might not side with the Leftist scum.
Thank you for post on ACLU, giv'em he*l.
I, for one, am extremely thankful to algore for inventing the 'net.
Without al's invention, there'd be no FR to factcheck his a**.
HEHEHEH
Isn't that the truth.
Plus, we'd all think WE were the crazy ones.
Where? I just clicked on your link, and Moveon.org isn't on that page.
Bump!
Maybe the ACLU doesn't consider the Clinton Admin's use of the IRS against political enemies to be a civil rights violation.
Burning the midnight oil at the Ministry of Truth.
It is so complicated to be a leftist. Reality must be constantly changed to keep up with the shifting politics.
Why? Because they want to, "spy" on anybody that doesn't see it their way. They made a blunder by posting how to do it all, because it showed their hand. Spur of the moment, eagerness and all...
I mean, the ACLU would have to believe that using the IRS/Treasury department on MLK was OK to accept it was OK for Clinton to do it.
Bump!
Could it be that those that are pointing the finger at Bush have something to hide? Nah, that would be irrational and irresponsible. </sardonic>
The mendacity of the ACLU and their water-carrying for the Democrat party apparently has no bounds. George Bush did not lie to the American people. Not only did Bill Clinton lie to the American people, "I did not have sex with that woman", but he also lied under oath to a court of law-purgery, a felony--where is his picture?
"Burning the midnight oil at the Ministry of Truth. "
Right Think
Wrong Think
Old Think
New Think
Old History
New History
Enemy of People
George Orwell was a man truly ahead of his time.
Who's the "Dufus"??
Everything the ACLU had on that website prior to the Bush Administration, including documents from 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000 that the ACLU filed against the Clinton Administration are all gone.. nada.. zip.. kaput..
... erased
The timemachine links posted earlier by other freepers show those incriminating documents.. The ACLU website does not..
Where did they go?
Why did the ACLU delete them from their website?
Why the Coverup? What are they Covering up?
Why is the ACLU lying?
Waiting for Sandy's reply...
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I'm guessing that there is much info in Alamo Girl's archives on clinton on this topic.
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Eschelon link on this aclu page give the following. 
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ACLU Changes Its Website After Being Caught Editing and Distorting the 1st Amendment
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