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Childlessness A Sin, Southern Baptist Leader Says
KWTX ^ | 1-17-06

Posted on 01/17/2006 1:31:49 PM PST by WKB

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To: RobbyS

Exactly,
and I've heard the same from childless couples too.

Likes draw likes.


121 posted on 01/17/2006 2:08:40 PM PST by najida (I wish it were Friday already.)
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To: LizardQueen

HUGS.

He took himself--and thus your marriage--down a rocky path that cost you both--but you honored your vow. Blessings on you.


122 posted on 01/17/2006 2:08:43 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: linda_22003

valid point..

AND...

There are people who are good, christian parents.. and their kids end up in deep trouble.

There are terrible people, whos children end up doing great things.

Only God can know this stuff.


123 posted on 01/17/2006 2:09:50 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (We have a mission from beyond the stars to spread freedom.)
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To: MikeinIraq

Most of the couples who shouldn't have kids shouldn't have got married, shouldn't have got together in the first place.


124 posted on 01/17/2006 2:11:02 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS

Or else they simply value their sanity.


125 posted on 01/17/2006 2:11:30 PM PST by linda_22003
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

"Moral relativism has struck FR pretty deeply as of late."


Absolute Truth cuts to the heart of all real issues and has NEVER been Politically Correct.


126 posted on 01/17/2006 2:11:34 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Deuteronomy 29:29The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.

Meaning that He alone knows why He didn't let me procreate?



That would be my interpretation.
There are some things we will never know
this side of Heaven.
127 posted on 01/17/2006 2:12:05 PM PST by WKB (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance.. then Baffle them with BS)
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To: najida

I hear ya. There's a lot of us out there who landed in the same place less by choice than by circumstance.

I came to the realization when I was nearing the end of my fertile years and kept trying to talk to DH about it and he would just stare and go "Huh?" because he was so baked he couldn't hold up his end of the conversation.

I sat myself down and said "you want a kid to have THAT as a father?". And as soon as I said that to myself I knew that either I had to either 1) leave DH or 2) get him cleaned up and then maybe reapproach the subject.

Getting him straightened out took a LONG time. I had one foot out the door for about 7 years. But I just couldn't give up on him.

He's cleaned up now, and he's the guy I knew he could be and could see even through the fog. But now my female bits have quit.

Oh well, sometimes you get the chocolates, sometimes you get the box.

I figure I did my part for God by rehabbing DH and keeping him from wasting the rest of his life.

LQ


128 posted on 01/17/2006 2:12:15 PM PST by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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To: WKB
Rev. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., the president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, says it's "an absolute revolt against God's design" if husbands and wives purposely avoid bearing children.

I have to agree. Of course, I also reject the cultural suicide embraced by much of the West.

129 posted on 01/17/2006 2:13:04 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Well, it is a good thing all those illegal aliens are coming over from Mexico because they are listening to the Right Reverend and having baby after baby after baby after baby.
130 posted on 01/17/2006 2:13:13 PM PST by iPod Shuffle
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To: WKB

He's right. And in another generation, when by sheer numbers due to procreation the Muslims overtake us, we will wish we would have taken the command to "be fruitful and multiply" serious. I only had two children. I believed a lie. If I were to do it over again, i would have had more. Too late now.


131 posted on 01/17/2006 2:13:26 PM PST by bella1
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Older couples without kids have always seemed bitter to me.

Next time you make your measurements, be sure that you are not told which couples have kids and which don't. It would also help if the childless older couples were randomly chosen from as a set as possible. Likewise the old couples with children used as your control should be chosen randomly from as complete a set as possible. When you've got your results, get back to us.

132 posted on 01/17/2006 2:14:18 PM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: LizardQueen
Yeah, well what would the dear man have to say if I had popped out 2 or 3 kids in the middle of my husbands 10-year drug abuse crisis?

He'd say you didn't have enough. After all, the natural spacing between babies is about 18 months. In 10 years, you should have had 6, and been 6 months pregnant with #7. Then God would have blessed your family just like he blessed Nixzmary Brown's family, where mommy just kept popping them out one after another -- to the point where she was busy nursing her 6 month old, while her husband was murdering her 7 year old in the next room, and the 4 other children were just doing whatever little kids do when mommy's too busy with the new baby to stop daddy from murdering your sister.

133 posted on 01/17/2006 2:14:49 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

> if He means for you to have a child, no amount of condoms or pills will stop it.

Failure to do the Horizontal Bop will kinda stymie His Plans, though...


134 posted on 01/17/2006 2:15:13 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: linda_22003
My mother-in-law had children, and they won't have anything to do with her. There are no guarantees.

I've always said "take care around your children, because one day you will have to answer to an adult."

135 posted on 01/17/2006 2:15:37 PM PST by papertyger (We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.)
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To: WKB

That's what I thought. I find Deuteronomy somewhat challenging, especially in the King James.


136 posted on 01/17/2006 2:15:49 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: George from New England

>>"can't afford them"

> by whose budgetary definitions?

Are you on welfare? Then you can't afford children.


137 posted on 01/17/2006 2:16:16 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: SlowBoat407

Thank you! Sometimes it seems like those who have children just want to feel superior to everyone who doesn't.

When I was married, there was the possibility at any time that I could go from 0 children to 2 or 3 or even 6 children I could be responsible for, and I had nightmares about it for a year. But I did what it took to be prepared for that possibility. Thankfully, it didn't happen.

Yet, the "selfish" and "immature" labels still continue to be thrown at people in my situation. Among other things I did, I had raised over $46 million just for children's charities in my career. I know, that doesn't count. Giving to those who have children just doesn't count, because they just expect it. "God said so."

They don't have "Aunt's/Uncle's Day" or "Single People's Day" or any kind of celebrations of life for childless people. We don't even get to have birthdays in my family. Do you know how it feels to be a non-entity?


138 posted on 01/17/2006 2:16:43 PM PST by Rte66
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To: najida

I think that is the argument of gays, isn't it?


139 posted on 01/17/2006 2:16:52 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: dangus
It is, however, the refusal to consent to God's will. God desires that marriage leads to sex and sex leads to children.

And then children leads to no sex, bills out the ass and a lot of headache from worrying about them all the time.

140 posted on 01/17/2006 2:17:19 PM PST by JackDanielsOldNo7 (If it wasn't for marriage, I would not have this screenname.)
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