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Fair Share law a Trojan horse
Waterbury Republican-American ^
| January 18, 2006
| Editorial
Posted on 01/18/2006 10:18:18 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: darbymcgill
And then people wonder why companies outsource... They wonder why everything they buy is made in China This isn't China or India, I'd like to keep it that way. I'd rather see them rise to our level than us lowering our selves to their level.
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posted on
01/18/2006 11:38:44 AM PST
by
Realism
(Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
To: Realism
How do you figure?
YOU earn your money. Money you spend for your housing and health can be deductible from your total taxable rate.
Your money does not belong to the government to allocate back to you and your neighbors as legislators "see fit".
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posted on
01/18/2006 11:40:24 AM PST
by
weegee
(Jan 16, 2006 - Happy holiday.)
To: Graybeard58; P-Marlowe; jude24
America is overdue for a sane, comprehensive discussion of health-care reform. Fair Share only makes a bad situation worse and hurts the very people it is supposed to help.
No business should be required to give any kind of benefit. A benefit is, by definition, an extra that is above the standard.
Benefits are bestowed by companies in order to retain valued employees. If a company wishes not to use "benefits" and chooses other ways to retain employees or if it even chooses not to use benefits at all, then all we are witnessing are different ways of running a business.
Similar to tipping a waiter/waitress, the whole point is lost if government begins to require businesses to spend in this or that area.
Why not require the business to pay double for its raw materials? A government could require that. Why don't they?
Likewise, there is no earthly, logical reason that says the workplace is where one should acquire health benefits.
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posted on
01/18/2006 12:01:24 PM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
To: camle
spend 8 percent of their payrolls on employee health benefits
Sure, easy.
Cut take home pay across the board by 8% and then use it to pay this stupid tax.
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posted on
01/18/2006 12:03:17 PM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
Comment #25 Removed by Moderator
To: camle
WM needs to see this as the opening salvo of a bigger attack, and tailor it's response to the idea of making other states think tqwice before doing the same thing. 30 states are currently considering similar laws.
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posted on
01/18/2006 12:05:31 PM PST
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: darbymcgill
And then people wonder why companies outsource... They wonder why everything they buy is made in China, and why when you call computer support it rings in India or Pakistan. This ain't rocket science.... it's just business...
Sure...They don't have regulations in China...Is that your cure??? If only we would work for pennies on the hour and be willing to dump our sewage and chemicals into the lakes and rivers, then you pro business, anti people types wouldn't have a reason to move to China...
Sorry, that may your American dream but it's not mine...I'm willing to pay what it costs to be an American...
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posted on
01/18/2006 12:05:44 PM PST
by
Iscool
(Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
To: weegee
YOU earn your money. I hate taxes as much as anyone, and would like to keep all that I earn, but the reality is that one mans pork is another mans job creation, health care or education for the poor, security for the needy, infrastructure for a state, city or town, on and on.
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posted on
01/18/2006 12:08:59 PM PST
by
Realism
(Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
To: typos
We have NEVER had government-funded health care in this country. We will, soon. Well, your not Canadian are you. Thanks for helping me make my point.
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posted on
01/18/2006 12:15:13 PM PST
by
Realism
(Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
To: Hendrix
You seem to imply that you are ok with this law. If so, I think you are on the wrong board.The Wal Mart family makes billions...Their upper echelon managers make scores of millions of bucks...
But they (and you) have decided I should pay more in taxes to insure THEIR employees and pay for the food stamps THEIR employees require to feed their kids in order that the Wal Mart owners can become even more wealthy...
And the Wal Mart 'family' has already destroyed thousands upon thousands of American jobs to be able to wallow in as much money as they possibly can...
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posted on
01/18/2006 12:17:17 PM PST
by
Iscool
(Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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To: typos
Yep, and the corporations are winning the whose going to foot the bill game hands down over the taxpayer.
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posted on
01/18/2006 12:34:48 PM PST
by
Realism
(Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
To: typos
"No one likes to pay taxes. Do you like having the services? I would bet my last dollar that the people who scream the loudest about paying taxes would be the first ones to scream if services were cut."
Forced redistribution of wealth is not taxing for services, it is communism.
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posted on
01/18/2006 12:46:48 PM PST
by
joebuck
To: Iscool; Gabz
Pinging Gabz - Here we go again.
The Wal Mart family makes billions...Their upper echelon managers make scores of millions of bucks...
So what?
More power to them.
But they (and you) have decided I should pay more in taxes to insure THEIR employees and pay for the food stamps
Would you pay less in taxes or more if Wal-Mart didn't employ them at all?
Your arguments are the same as every socialist Wal-Mart basher who comes along.
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posted on
01/18/2006 12:47:13 PM PST
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: Iscool
The Wal Mart family makes billions...Their upper echelon managers make scores of millions of bucks...
Do you really think that Wal Mart owners and managers are going to pay this new "tax"... This is economics 101... The customer "always" pays...
The title of this thread is perfect. Why doesn't the MD government just come out and be honest. Just tell the customers of WalMart upfront. If you shop at Wal Mart you will be taxed at a higher level then if you shop from Mom and Pop. Tell the people of MD that the Mom and Pop stores are getting welfare by not having to pay the Wal Mart tax.
But they (and you) have decided I should pay more in taxes to insure THEIR employees and pay for the food stamps THEIR employees require to feed their kids in order that the Wal Mart owners can become even more wealthy..
If you and/or the Wal Mart employees can't afford to raise a family on what you earn. Don't have a family that you can't afford, get a better job, and don't complain about those who worked harder than you and make more money.
To: One Proud Dad
A better idea would be to show the increased cost to the consumer on their receipts. Add a line item after the sales tax that reads "State Mandated Health Care Surcharge for Wal-Mart Customers".
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posted on
01/18/2006 12:51:51 PM PST
by
Redcloak
("Shiny... Let's be bad guys.")
To: typos
We have NEVER had government-funded health care in this country. That's one of the most absurd statements that I've ever seen on FR. Who do you think funds MediCal in California or TennCare in Tennessee and any number of other state programs whose names I don't know?
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posted on
01/18/2006 12:55:35 PM PST
by
Bob
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Comment #39 Removed by Moderator
To: Bob
Former socialist "typos" is history.
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posted on
01/18/2006 1:05:19 PM PST
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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