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Fair Share law a Trojan horse
Waterbury Republican-American ^
| January 18, 2006
| Editorial
Posted on 01/18/2006 10:18:18 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: darbymcgill
The customer "always" pays... Kinda like a sales tax or a consumer tax or "Fair Tax" Health care insurance should be mandatory!
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posted on
01/18/2006 1:09:41 PM PST
by
Realism
(Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
To: Graybeard58
Fair/unfair--Subjective.
Right/wrong--Objective.
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posted on
01/18/2006 1:11:00 PM PST
by
Crawdad
(So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
To: Graybeard58
Would you pay less in taxes or more if Wal-Mart didn't employ them at all?Neither...Wal Mart didn't create any jobs...Wal Mart is selling products that other American retailers used to sell to Americans, made by Americans
... Your arguments are the same as every socialist Wal-Mart basher who comes along.
Like it or not, without a little socialism, you'd be driving to work on wagon trails and your neighbor's sewage may be running down the trail in front of your house...You love a little bit ot socialism just like everyone else does...You just want someone else to pay for it...Or would you really enjoy living in China (outside of the gated communities)???
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posted on
01/18/2006 1:11:34 PM PST
by
Iscool
(Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
To: darbymcgill
Do you really think that Wal Mart owners and managers are going to pay this new "tax"... This is economics 101... The customer "always" pays... You are repeating what I said at the beginning...If Wal Mart pays, the taxpayer has the choice on whether to pay by buying Wal Mart products, or not...
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posted on
01/18/2006 1:13:49 PM PST
by
Iscool
(Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
To: Redcloak
Add a line item after the sales tax that reads "State Mandated Health Care Surcharge for Wal-Mart Customers".
They tried that with the "universal service" tax on the phone bill. The regulators refused to allow them to indicate on the bills that it was a tax. The phone companies were forced to display the charges as though they were getting the money. Read the fine print on your phone bills some time and check out the charges not shown as taxes... particularly the universal service charge. It is a tax to pay for Al Gore's Internet, old people to have phones, economic rural phone service etc... More welfare..
To: Realism
Health care insurance should be mandatory!
Mandatory to whom?
To: Graybeard58
Former socialist "typos" is history. Somehow, I'm not the least bit surprised. I'd describe him as a "former troll and current socialist", though.
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posted on
01/18/2006 1:20:18 PM PST
by
Bob
To: Iscool
If Wal Mart pays, the taxpayer has the choice on whether to pay by buying Wal Mart products, or not...
The customer has always had a choice... (guess who they chose?) just like the employees had/have a choice (guess who they've chosen?). Why would you take away Wal Mart's choice simply because they have more money...
Your envy is showing....
To: Iscool
You love a little bit ot socialism just like everyone else does...You just want someone else to pay for it...Or would you really enjoy living in China You are dead wrong. I am not the one advocating taxing Wal-Mart for being successful - you are.
The Wal Mart family makes billions...Their upper echelon managers make scores of millions of bucks
What is that? Jealousy?
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posted on
01/18/2006 1:22:14 PM PST
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: Graybeard58
Excellent article.
This entire issue is starting to get very interesting..........it's amazing how so many don't see the big picture, because this targets the big Evil WalMart and so that is good.
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posted on
01/18/2006 1:23:57 PM PST
by
Gabz
To: Bob
I'd describe him as a "former troll and current socialist", though. I accidently omitted a word. That should have read: Former poster, socialist "typos" is history
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posted on
01/18/2006 1:24:31 PM PST
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: Iscool
What's not so funny is that this will be rolled into the statistics on both alchohol and smoking deaths. So does every other retailer in the country. Why not put in place a law that mandates ALL employers spend 8% of payroll for helaht insurance, why just WalMart?????
I know the answer, I wonder if you do.
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posted on
01/18/2006 1:26:45 PM PST
by
Gabz
To: Realism
This isn't China or India, I'd like to keep it that way. I'd rather see them rise to our level than us lowering our selves to their level.
Oh, you mean by taxing all of their manufacturing corporations into moving to other countries? Or better yet by creating a health crisis in the first place and then using it as an excuse to nationalize the entire health care system? Or mandating unions so companies like GM are strong armed into bankruptcy just so their air wrench holders can have free health care, drive a Mercedes Benz and take 6 or 8 weeks of vacation?
To: Iscool; Graybeard58
And the Wal Mart 'family' has already destroyed thousands upon thousands of American jobs to be able to wallow in as much money as they possibly can... Not this nonsense.......again.
It's starting to sound like echoes of broken records around here.
WalMart has not destroyed American jobs........idiotic laws like this destroy American jobs.
This has now set a precedent, until it is overturned by a court, and there will be no stopping these legislatures from continually dropping the number....now it's 10,000 and generally only hits WM, but what's to stop them from dropping it to 5,000 or even 500 or maybe even 5 employees.
Talk about destroying jobs..........
And if it doesn't destroy jobs, it will wipe out the concept of employers providing ANY benefits to employees for fear they will be next.
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posted on
01/18/2006 1:37:40 PM PST
by
Gabz
To: Iscool
My first post to you should have had this line:
Wal-Mart hire millions of 'part time' employees to avoid paying any benefits...That includes insurance and unemployment benefits...
Instead of what I had, apologies.
But the rest of my comments still stand.
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posted on
01/18/2006 1:42:42 PM PST
by
Gabz
To: darbymcgill
Mandatory to whom? Any body who chooses to employ should be required to provide a basic health care plan no different than providing liability insurance. Take your work to China or India and pay a fair tax at customs. Thats the way it should work.
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posted on
01/18/2006 1:44:37 PM PST
by
Realism
(Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
To: Realism
Any body who chooses to employ should be required to provide a basic health care plan no different than providing liability insurance.
Why?
So if you hire your neighbor's boy to come mow your yard. You gonna want to have a rider on your home owners or will you call and get a special policy written up just for that day?
To: darbymcgill
So if you hire your neighbor's boy to come mow your yard. Be realistic. Do your kids claim their allowance at income tax time?
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posted on
01/18/2006 1:56:57 PM PST
by
Realism
(Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
To: Realism
That's utterly ridiculous.
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posted on
01/18/2006 1:57:36 PM PST
by
Gabz
To: darbymcgill
If Wal Mart pays, the taxpayer has the choice on whether to pay by buying Wal Mart products, or not... Nope...Without Wal Mart paid benefits, you and I pay for state sponsored health care for these people whether we shop at Wal Mart or not...
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posted on
01/18/2006 2:01:10 PM PST
by
Iscool
(Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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