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Jury note hints at convictions in tire-slashing case (Milwaukee 5)
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 1/20/06 | Derrick Nunnally

Posted on 01/20/2006 9:46:22 AM PST by UB355

Jury note hints at convictions in tire-slashing

In a possible sign one or more guilty verdicts could be coming this morning, the jury in the Election Day 2004 tire-slashing case sent a note to Circuit Judge Michael Brennan asking whether, when filling out their verdict forms for each of the five defendants, anything should be written in to indicate which of three possible theories of party to a crime a person was being found guilty under.

The jury has now been deliberating for 4 ½ hours.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: demcorruption

1 posted on 01/20/2006 9:46:24 AM PST by UB355
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To: UB355

More reasons why they will be not guilty.


2 posted on 01/20/2006 9:47:28 AM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: UB355
Taco Supreme Solar Allah

3 posted on 01/20/2006 9:48:54 AM PST by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

The kids are blaming party higher ups. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the higher ups and the kids who dreamed this up


4 posted on 01/20/2006 9:49:07 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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To: evets

ROFLMAO


5 posted on 01/20/2006 9:49:28 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

The bigger question is, how did the LSM get the note, or know it's contents?


6 posted on 01/20/2006 9:49:49 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: saveliberty
That's rich! Blaming "party higher-ups". Yeah right.

If that were true, they would have pled out and fingered said higher-ups.

Just the lawyers using the tried-and-true "empty chair" argument.

7 posted on 01/20/2006 9:51:27 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Well at least they are consistent with Democratic principles. When in trouble, blame someone else.


8 posted on 01/20/2006 9:53:18 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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To: Bigh4u2; Andy from Beaverton
Any note that is transmitted from the jury to the judge must be displayed to all counsel and is often read in open court. A reporter would hear it along with everyone else in the courtroom. I don't think it would be read at a sidebar (bench) conference unless one of the parties asked to approach the bench.

It's so that defense counsel and the prosecution have equal knowledge of any communications from the jury. It's a "right to be present at any critical stage of the proceedings" argument for the defendants.

9 posted on 01/20/2006 9:53:42 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: saveliberty

Absolutely. Lawyers LOVE to point at the empty chair and blame its non-occupant for everything. If you can convince a really thick-headed jury that it's all a conspiracy and you're the fall guy, you may walk.


10 posted on 01/20/2006 9:54:36 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

There's a reason why trial lawyers trend Democrat


11 posted on 01/20/2006 9:56:45 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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To: Bigh4u2
"The bigger question is, how did the LSM get the note, or know it's contents?"

I'm sure one of the attorneys told them.

12 posted on 01/20/2006 9:59:25 AM PST by joebuck
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To: saveliberty
The plaintiffs' lawyers and criminal defense lawyers certainly do.

But you'll find that prosecutors and civil defense lawyers tend conservative. And the smart criminal defense lawyers do too, whatever they say in court.

13 posted on 01/20/2006 10:00:58 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

:-) I have a friend who is an attorney. When we met over 8 years ago, she told me that she was conservative during a political discussion. I responded "only in Massachusetts" :-)

She has come a long way in those 8 years, but still hates Reagan for the budget cuts. Today she thinks that she is becoming a Republican. But during the last Senatorial race, she was appalled by the platform of libertarian Michael Cloud who wanted to repeal gun control and to cut the size of government. LOL!

We are still great friends but politically I have been showing her ideas that she's never considered before.

So I would agree that there are numerous conservative lawyers out there, but I would point out that there may be something about the discipline that attracts more persons who are predisposed to interventionist government than not.


14 posted on 01/20/2006 10:08:35 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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To: saveliberty
The kids are blaming party higher ups. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the higher ups and the kids who dreamed this up

Didn't the Nazis try this defense as well. Maybe there a pattern here...

15 posted on 01/20/2006 10:13:50 AM PST by thepatriot1 (...brought to you courtesy of the Red, White and Blue)
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To: thepatriot1

You get a Gold Star for the day.


16 posted on 01/20/2006 10:16:07 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: thepatriot1

In those days, we didn't have Stella Liebowicz suing because she was stupid and put hot coffee between her legs.


17 posted on 01/20/2006 10:17:36 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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To: saveliberty
I think geographical location has a lot to do with it.

There are plenty of liberal attorneys in the NE and of course Atlanta (which is actually a suburb of the NE), but most lawyers outside the metro area are quite conservative. And most of us, I think, are not fond of big government because we've seen up close the harm it can do.

18 posted on 01/20/2006 11:30:15 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

:-) Full disclosure. I have had a lot of experience with attorneys from many different states as my clients. So yes, the NorthEast is very liberal. But I will also point to a recent article that was cited by James Taranto in Best of the Web Today (after John Roberts and prior to the nomination of Alito) that posited that law schools are very liberal places and why the conservative candidates did better was because they were more apt to meet individuals who disagreed with them than their liberal counterparts.

I am not saying that there aren't many conservative lawyers. I am saying that there are more liberal ones.


19 posted on 01/20/2006 11:35:00 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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