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Real Hardball by John Kerry (this full-of-himself idiot posted at daily Kos website)
dailykos ^ | Fri Jan 20, 2006 at 03:52:31 PM PDT | J Kerry

Posted on 01/20/2006 7:06:55 PM PST by dennisw

There's something that doesn't sit right with me when, on the day Osama Bin Laden resurfaced in a disturbing audio tape, cable television ends up in a game of name calling as a war protester is compared to Osama Bin Laden.

That's reason to be outraged - but even more outrageous is the fact that in a flurry of sound bites what was lost was a real discussion of the fact that more than four years after the devastating attacks of 9/11, more than four years after George Bush boasted we wanted Osama "dead or alive," more than a year after Osama Bin Laden showed his hateful face in yet another video, this barbarian is still very much alive and boasting of additional attacks against the United States.

John Kerry's diary :: :: Here's what I'd like to see debated on Hardball.

President Bush's mouthpiece Scott McClellan can claim this administration puts terrorists out of business, but yesterday's tape reminds us that instead of being out of business, Osama is still out there.

If this administration had followed through on the opportunity to capture Osama Bin Laden at Tora Bora in 2001, the world would be a better place with Osama Bin Laden brought to justice -- and we wouldn't be having this discussion today.

And here's what the media should insist we discuss.

President Bush and his defenders continue to claim that Osama Bin Laden didn't escape at Tora Bora. But Gary Bernstein's book Jawbreaker documents what I said early in 2002 and during my debates with George Bush: that because Donald Rumsfeld's Pentagon didn't use American troops to do the job and instead outsourced the job of killing the world's #1 terrorist to Afghan warlords, this cold blooded killer got away.

So what's the truth? There's a question that the full force of cable television should demand be answered. Press accounts over the last month have raised new concerns about the reliance on Afghan forces at Tora Bora in 2001. One account cited a Department of Defense document said to summarize the case against a suspected al Qaeda militant. The militant was believed to have helped Osama bin Laden escape from Tora Bora. More recently, August Hanning, the head of German intelligence, has said bin Laden bribed Afghan forces at Tora Bora to make his escape.

The evidence keeps mounting:

Isn't it time we had the truth? Yes or no, did Osama Bin Laden escape from Tora Bora in 2001?

Here's a subject suited for true hard ball, on Hardball: four years of failure - enough is enough - why hasn't Osama Bin Laden been captured or killed, and how will he be destroyed before he next appears on tape to spread his disgusting message?

That discussion -- rather than criticizing American citizens who exercise their right to free speech and express dissenting opinions - is the discussion that America needs. That would be the kind of debate on Hardball to which we should all tune in.

John Kerry

P.S. I want you all to know that I’m reading your many comments. My wife Teresa reads blogs passionately, and I follow blogs too, and I’m glad I can be a part of this – and frankly I’m not worried about taking some slings and arrows along the way. I’ve faced worse! So keep the comments coming -- good, bad, hopefully not indifferent.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: binladen; dailykos; johnfkerrysucks; kerry; kerry2008; kos
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To: Darkwolf377

Darkwolf377: Congrats on a great post.

"Yo Johnny, if your momma/wife let you stay up this late, answer me this: How long after we declared war on Germany was Adolph Hitler certified as dead?"

Kerry is all about instant gratification. I doubt he could actually follow the series "24", as it wouldn't have an ending when he wanted it. Someone ought to tell Kerry some of these conflicts have gone on for CENTURIES. That ought to call him off the case.....


41 posted on 01/20/2006 7:36:05 PM PST by Fizzie
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To: marsh_of_mists

My guess is it's not him.


42 posted on 01/20/2006 7:36:05 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: dennisw

43 posted on 01/20/2006 7:36:12 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dennisw
President Bush's mouthpiece Scott McClellan can claim this administration puts terrorists out of business, but yesterday's tape reminds us that instead of being out of business, Osama is still out there.

Yeah, and he's begging for a truce after we sent four of his posse to meet Allah.

What a maroon.

44 posted on 01/20/2006 7:36:43 PM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: okie01
Yeah, my point is that Kerry has reduced the war on terror to this silly "You said Bin Laden dead or alive, so where is he, huh, huh?" silliness.

Whenever I think the Dems can't get more embarassingly pointless, someone like Kerry comes up with something stupid like this.

45 posted on 01/20/2006 7:36:43 PM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: dennisw

Wow. It's a race to the bottom. Edwards and his kook wife posted at DU, Teresa and John love Kos.

just a little out of touch with the real world.


46 posted on 01/20/2006 7:37:16 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: dennisw

Doesn't this total moron know that Bush is NO LONGER RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION??????????????


47 posted on 01/20/2006 7:37:21 PM PST by The Drowning Witch (Sono La Voce della Nazione Selvaggia)
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To: dennisw
This is an obvious forgery and I think I know who the forger is.

1st it is by J Kerry, not J F Kerry or John F Kerry or John Friggin Kerry or John French Kerry. No, it is by J Kerry.

Now who could be so STUPID as to try and get away with this? And mentioning the DEBATES and referencing the past ELECTION?

ALGORE of course!
48 posted on 01/20/2006 7:40:52 PM PST by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: billhilly
Did he forget to mention that he had been in Vietnam???

Been there? Hell he singlehandedly won the war and negotiated the peace!

49 posted on 01/20/2006 7:41:20 PM PST by Mogengator
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To: Darkwolf377

This guy really likes "living" in the past, doesn't he??

Instead of any real input into today...he is all about why didn't we get Bin Ladin in Tora Bora...

Well, we didn't...so what good does it do NOW...to event talk about it!!!

Let's instead talk about how you and silky pony wanted to SUPPLY Iran with the unranium that wanted for their NUKES...let's talk about that...hmmmmmmmmm...and what would YOU DO now,...bomb Iran...sanction Iran...give Iran the uranium still??

BTW..JOHN...GQ was right about YOU!!!


50 posted on 01/20/2006 7:42:07 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: dennisw


In his discussion with Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim Jaafari(R),
Kerry says, "I have a plan.
I have a plan for Iraq.
I have a plan for Bagdad.
I have a plan for the Green Zone.
I have a plan for the Tigres.
I have a plan for the Euphrates.
I have a plan for the Gulf.
I have a plan for....details? How dare you question my patriotism???!!!???"

51 posted on 01/20/2006 7:43:53 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Fizzie
What kills me is that KERRY addressed the topic of whether or not it's valid to compare the Dems words to Bin Laden's, and instead of bringing up evidence to dispute that assertion he says..."What about Tora Bora, huh, huh, what about THAT, huh?"

Who the heck was even TALKING about that? No one. Kerry didn't even bring the topic up on its own--HE brought up the question of whether anti-war rhetoric is the same as pro-Bin Laden rhetoric, and then he just hops on this relatively unimportant point.

Bush was trash-talking, which soldiers do in war. I've never been in combat but have first-hand accounts from people who have been. In movies, too, they sometimes make it seem like it's heartless to call the enemy names and say "Yahoo!" or "Dead or alive," but that's simply what you do in these situations.

So instead of addressing an important issue, he turns into this political nancyboy and whines "What about Tora Bora, you didn't get him huh, huh, *I* would have, because I wouldn't have outsourced the job." Forget that he's so out of it he can't see that outsourcing is last year's news, he's now attacking Bush for not putting MORE of our people in harm's way. Look at the logic he's using--he's attacking Bush because he DIDN"T put our men in danger, and did the political balancing act that probably helped Afghanistan by having THEM take care of an internal problem.

All of this is beyond the muffin stand owner from Massachusetts.

52 posted on 01/20/2006 7:44:03 PM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: WorkingClassFilth
"My admiration for the courage and devotion to duty of the Swifties increases everytime this elderly and flatulent twerp tries to pass himself off as honest or relevant. I wish he had inflicted his phony wounds with a .50 M2 between his eyes."

I hope that during the primaries Freepers will recall what John McCain had to say about the Swift Boat Veterans. "Dishonest and dishonorable" is how he described those great Americans. McCain is as much a scumbag as Kerry.

53 posted on 01/20/2006 7:45:22 PM PST by Godebert
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To: Txsleuth
Let's instead talk about how you and silky pony wanted to SUPPLY Iran with the unranium that wanted for their NUKES...let's talk about that...hmmmmmmmmm..

LOL Excellent point! And seeing how John wants to talk about past decisions and how they impact today, I'm surprised why no one at Kos has mentioned that. Oh, wait, no I'm not.

54 posted on 01/20/2006 7:45:37 PM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: dennisw
Isn't it time we had the truth? Yes or no, did Osama Bin Laden escape from Tora Bora in 2001?

Did I mention I was in Cambodia for Christmas ?

55 posted on 01/20/2006 7:46:04 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Godebert

Methinks McCain either got exceptional care by the NVA and he's hiding it, or he was their boy after the first interrogation. In either case, he's no conservative, no Republican and nobody worth a damn.


56 posted on 01/20/2006 7:49:10 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
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To: Darkwolf377

Yep. And when he gets done there he'll talk about Woodrow Wilson letting the Kaiser slip into exile after WWI rather then bringing him to justice.


57 posted on 01/20/2006 7:51:10 PM PST by Denver Ditdat (Leftist New Year's resolution: force Christians into the closets vacated by gays)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

How many days did you spend in the Hanoi Hilton? How many missions did you fly in Vietnam? Your statement shows that you know nothing about the type of treatment those POWs endured.


58 posted on 01/20/2006 7:52:43 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: okie01; Darkwolf377

Ah, I see your point. Contemporary verification of Hitler's death relied upon the Soviets - certainly not the most trustworthy group. There has been a lot of speculative fiction and non-fiction written concerning that topic. One of my favorite novels of the genre (The Berkut) had Hitler caged like an animal until the end of Stalin's life, and killed only after "Uncle Joe" died.


59 posted on 01/20/2006 7:56:38 PM PST by Denver Ditdat (Leftist New Year's resolution: force Christians into the closets vacated by gays)
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To: Darkwolf377
Whenever I think the Dems can't get more embarassingly pointless, someone like Kerry comes up with something stupid like this.

One poster asked how could we be sure it was really Kerry.

Your observation serves as conclusive evidence of his identity.

60 posted on 01/20/2006 7:58:10 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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