Posted on 01/20/2006 10:16:08 PM PST by jmc1969
WASHINGTON (AFP) - US Vice President Dick Cheney has said he does not believe there are close relations between Iran and Al-Qaeda, seeming to distance himself from some earlier US administration charges.
"I think you've got to remember that the Al-Qaeda organization is primarily made up of radical Sunni Islamists, of course, and the Iranian regime is Shia-dominated -- Shia. So there's not a natural fit there," Cheney said in a telephone interview with the Hugh Hewitt Show, released by the White House.
"That doesn't mean that there haven't been relationships over the years, but I don't believe it's close. I haven't seen any evidence of that," Cheney added on the heels of new broadcast threats by Osama bin Laden.
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Yep. The easy play is to have the Nobel Peace winners declare Iran will comply with a "civilian" nuclear program. "Trust us" they'll say...
"I'm just skeptical that regime change is at all imminent for Iran..."
Agreed. But we have daily posts about how the Iranian masses love Americans, and would welcome US assistance to overthrow the mullah government.
I suspect a lot of that is wishful thinking by Iranians fortunate enough to be out of there, yet wishing their brethren back home could get free.
But there is scant history in the islamic world of people revolting to throw off oppressive government.
Likewise there is scant history of any real democracy. Scant history of a love for freedom great enough for large sacrifice of lives.
The muslims willing to die for something seem to be the jihadists, to overthrow their monarchies, and dictatorships in favor of sharia-mullah governments.
Islam is a great big problem, beyond Iran or Iraq with or without nukes.
What does he know? Just ask anyone here on FR.
I think Cheney's statements are accurate, and should not really be news. Iran never recognized the Taliban and had several minor confrontations with them. It should also be noted that many Al Qaeda members are Baluchi who have been in conflict with the Iranian central government for decades. As crazy as the Iranian are, they are moderates compared to Al Qaeda. However, the US must seriously consider taking out the Iranian nuclear program by force if necessary.
I understood what you meant. I think you are right. I was just chipping in my two cents about what Cheney was saying. The article was implying that we should let Iran go nuclear because they don't directly support Al Qaeda. It is the typical of the media's illogical rational.
That does not mean much in the part of the world where 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' rule applies.
If we are going to hit Iran, we can't have a "paper trail' as it were of statements (such as: proven connection betweenn AQ and Iran) that the Left will use to derail the plans, as has been done after the fact vis Iraq.
I'd like to see a peaceful Naval blockade of Iran, followed by a peaceful aerial bombard2ment of their military and nuclear infrastructure and massive peaceful artillary bombardment of the Iraq/Iran border.
He's forgetting that old adage "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." They may dislike each other, but they have 1 thing in common: and utter to-the-bone hatred of America, and will be content to squabble among themselves after they have destroyed the Great Satan.
But there is scant history in the islamic world of people revolting to throw off oppressive government.
This year is the 100th anniversary of Iran's constitutional revolution.
Constitutional Revolution
During the early 1900s the only way to save country from government corruption and foreign manipulation was to make a written code of laws. This sentiment caused the Constitutional Revolution. There had been a series of ongoing covert and overt activities against Naser o-Din Shah’s despotic rule, for which many had lost their lives. The efforts of freedom fighers finally bore fruit during the reign of Moazaferedin Shah. Mozafaredin shah ascended to throne on June 1896. In the wake of the relentless efforts of freedom fighters, Mozafar o-Din Shah of Qajar dynasty was forced to issued the decree for the constitution and the creation of an elected parliament (the Majlis) in August 5, 1906. The royal power limited and a parliamentary system established.On August 18, 1906, the first Legislative assembly (called as Supreme National Assembly), was formed in the Military Academy to make the preparations for the openning of the first Term of the National Consultative Assembly and drafting the election law thereof. During this meeting, Prime Minister Moshirul Doleh, delivered a speech as the head of the cabinet. The session concluded with the address made by Malek Al Motokalemin.
On October 7th, 1906 in a speech made in spite of his poor health, Mozaferedin Shah inaugurated the first session of the National Consultative Assembly. At this them the session was formed in the absence of representatives from provinces.
Following Mozafaredin Shah’s death, his successor, Mohammad Ali Mirza who was then ruled Tabriz as a crown prince, ascended to the throne on January 21st, 1907. Before taking the reign, he pledged to respect the fundaments of Constitution and Nation’s Rights. But he contravened this from the very beginning which made Constitutionalists to react.
Capitalizing on the internal struggles, both Russia and Britain entered a pact to settle their own differences; effectively dividing Iran into two areas of influence for their respected countries. This made headlines in early September 1907 and united the various factions in Iran. The Iranian government was officially notified of this pact on September 7, 1907 by Russian and British Ambassadors.
The rising tides of dissatisfaction and discontent caused Mohammad Mirza to summon the cabinet members on December 17, 1907 under the false pretense of soliciting advice. He immediately orders their detention. Only Nasserul Molk, who was the prime minister, was let free.
On December 22, 1907 a new cabinet was formed headed by Nezamul Saltaneh Mafi. On the surface the air is cleared and the tensions are eased. But on February 1908, a bomb is thrown at Shah’s Coach, making him highly suspicious. On June 1st, 1908 Shah purges some of the courtiers. Ambassador Zapolski of Russia and Ambassador Marling of Britain warn the Iranian Government to submit to Shah’s intents.Two days later, Shah invites the leaders of the constitutional movement to the Imperial Gardens outside Tehran. There he imprisons all save for one who manages to escape. On June 24, 1908, Shah places Majlis under seige and orders its bombardment by artillery fire.
During these times, the Tabriz uprising culminated and within the span of four months spread to Rasht, Qazvin, Esfahan, Lar, Shiraz, Hamadan, Mashhad, Astar Abad, Bandar Abbas and Bushehr. The Freedom fighters prevailed against the tyranny at all points. Yet Tabriz was still under economic and military blocked set up by government forces.
On February 17, 1909, Freedom Forces captured Rasht. By March, they succeed in taking control of Rasht and Qazvin main roads. By April 22nd, 1909, Tabriz Freedom Fighters under the leadership of Sattar Khan (Sardar-e Meli) made their attack to break through the blockade. They lost huge number of their fighters. An English Reporter named Moore and an American Missionary called Howard Baskerville, who were sympathetic with the freedom fighters were killed.
Commanded by General Yeprim and Brigadier Mohi, freedom fighters of Rasht occupied Qazvin and advanced towards Tehran.
On June 22nd. 1909, Bakhtiari Chieftains, led by Samsam-ul-Saltaneh and Haj Aligholi Khan Bakhtiari (Sardar As’ad) reached the city of Qum, which they took over on July 8th,1909. The intimidations and interventions made by Russian and British embassies failed to stop the advance of freedom fighters. Inevitably, a number of russian troops were dispatched to Gilan via Badkobeh, reaching Qazvin on July 12th, 1909. Russians warned Gilan Fighters to stop moving in against Tehran.Ignoring the warning, Gilan freedom fighters advanced towards Tehran, and met up with Bakhtiari forces near Karaj (60km west of Tehran). Using the element of surprise, these forces moved through the lines of the government forces. Thus the 3000 strong, well-equipped forces led by Mohammad Valikhan Tonekaboni and Sardar As’ad, entered the capital amid welcoming cheers of freedom loving sympathizers. Following a bloody fights in the streets and the Bazaar District, once again the national forces triumphed and the Cossak brigade, having retreated to the parade grounds, was surrounded and forced into surrender.
On July 16th, 1909, the capital was under complete control of freedom fighters. At 8:30, on the morning of July 17, 1909, Mohammad shah and a number of his supporters, under armed escort of Russian Soldats, took asylum with Russian Embassy in Zargandeh.
On this very day, the National Consultative Assembly (Majlis) held an emergency session and deposed Mohammad Ali Shah as a monarch, and named his 13 year old son, Ahmad Mirza as his successor. Azadulmolk was named as the Vice-Regent.
On September 10th, 1909, Mohammad Ali Shah left the Russian Embassy and went into exile in Russia.
Though it does seem that some are "burying the hatchet" and getting together more often so to speak.
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