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GOP Backs Bush on Guest-Worker Plan(GOP Blinks)
The Washington Times ^ | January 21, 2006 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 01/21/2006 5:42:15 AM PST by kellynla

The Republican National Committee voted yesterday to back President Bush's call for a guest-worker program.

Meeting a few blocks from the White House at the Capital Hilton, the umbrella organization of the Republican Party adopted a resolution that calls for continued legal immigration, criticizes illegal immigration and endorses a new work program for foreign workers. However, the resolution states there should be "no amnesty for those persons presently in the United States illegally."

"The question is not 'Is there an issue?' -- the question is 'How you deal with it?' and I think we have to deal with it in a comprehensive way -- we don't have to deal with it in a way that's anti-immigrant," said party Chairman Ken Mehlman, who said the resolution "reflected where the president was."

The resolution, adopted by voice vote, was a major victory for Mr. Mehlman and headed off a divisive vote on an alternate resolution that would have put the party on record as opposing a guest-worker program, thus at odds with Mr. Bush.

Randy Pullen, Arizona's committeeman, had gained enough signatures from fellow RNC members to force a vote on a version that specifically opposed a guest-worker program.

But after the pro-guest worker resolution passed Mr. Pullen withdrew his plan from the floor. "Sometimes you've got to know when you've lost and move on," Mr. Pullen said afterward. He said he was not pressured to withdraw his resolution. He was the only RNC member to say "no" during the vote on the pro-guest worker resolution.

He said he has yet to see a guest-worker plan that doesn't amount to amnesty, and said Mr. Bush has his work cut out for him trying to explain how he can craft such a plan.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; gop; guestworker; illegals; immigration; immigrationplan
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To: kellynla

Amnesty didn't work under Reagan (look where we are today) and amnesty won't work NOW!


2 posted on 01/21/2006 5:43:24 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
Yep, we need more foreign engineers to do the jobs that 'Muricans won't do. This administration hates U.S. citizens.
3 posted on 01/21/2006 5:51:28 AM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: kellynla
My friend owns a tree trimming business and recently inquired of the city of Garland as to why they had a specific site for day labor on city of Garland property. The person told them that they just let contractors pull up and get their laborers and their job was to make sure the workers got paid by the contractor.

My friend was incredulous. "So these workers are illegal and the city of Garland is making sure they get paid and if they don't then the contractors would be reported or be the only ones in trouble for hiring illegals?"

"Thats right" she replied.

This is why its up to contractors and American business men to stop the practice of hiring illegals. If you can't run your business without day labor then you don't have much of a legitimate business.

4 posted on 01/21/2006 5:52:41 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: kellynla
Mr. Mehlman said amnesty "would mean that people who have broken the law are not punished for breaking the law."

Which is what we have now.

If anyone would have told me, back in 1994 that the gop takeover of government would result in this Anti-American position, which ignores the safety and security of American soil, I would have cracked that person in the mouth.

5 posted on 01/21/2006 5:55:03 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: kellynla

Reagan failed us there for sure. Thankfully he was good in all other areas.


6 posted on 01/21/2006 5:55:05 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: kellynla

The only one? Tancredo, Hayworth, Sensenbrenner, Jones, et all supported this!? Tancredo must have still been on his road trip.

The republican party disappoints again, didn't even vote on it.


7 posted on 01/21/2006 6:02:21 AM PST by NapkinUser ("Our troops have become the enemy." -Representative John P. Murtha, modern day Benedict Arnold.)
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To: normy

and until the Feds start fining businesses for hiring illegals nothing will change....


the GOP doesn't seem to comprehend that if you have people who will break the law to enter this country; what makes the GWB & the GOP think that those same people will start obeying the law by applying for a guest worker's permit...l
chances are these clowns are criminals from when they came.
And last time I checked, we already have a "guest worker program"...I think they call it a "temporary workers' visa."

TEMPORARY WORKERS

CLASSIFICATIONS

The US Immigration and Nationality Act provides several categories of nonimmigrant visas for a person who wishes to work temporarily in the United States. There are annual numerical limits on some classifications which are shown in parentheses.

H-1B classification applies to persons in a specialty occupation which requires the theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge requiring completion of a specific course of higher education. This classification requires a labor attestation issued by the Secretary of Labor (65,000). This classification also applies to Government-to-Government research and development, or co production projects administered by the Department of Defense (100);

H-2A classification applies to temporary or seasonal agricultural workers;

H-2B classification applies to temporary or seasonal nonagricultural workers. This classification requires a temporary labor certification issued by the Secretary of Labor (66,000);

H-3 classification applies to trainees other than medical or academic. This classification also applies to practical training in the education of handicapped children (50);

L classification applies to intra-company transferees who, within the three preceding years, have been employed abroad continuously for one year, and who will be employed by a branch, parent, affiliate, or subsidiary of that same employer in the U.S. in a managerial, executive, or specialized knowledge capacity;

O-1 classification applies to persons who have extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics, or extraordinary achievements in the motion picture and television field;

O-2 classification applies to persons accompanying an O-1 alien to assist in an artistic or athletic performance for a specific event or performance;

P-1 classification applies to individual or team athletes, or members of an entertainment group that are internationally recognized (25,000);

P-2 classification applies to artists or entertainers who will perform under a reciprocal exchange program;

P-3 classification applies to artists or entertainers who perform under a program that is culturally unique (same as P-1); and

Q-1 classification applies to participants in an international cultural exchange program for the purpose of providing practical training, employment, and the sharing of the history, culture, and traditions of the alien's home country.

PETITIONS

In order to be considered as a nonimmigrant under the above classifications the applicant's prospective employer or agent must file Form I-129, Petition for Nonimmigrant Worker, with the United States US Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS). Once approved, the employer or agent is sent a notice of approval, Form I-797. It should be noted that the approval of a petition shall not guarantee visa issuance to an applicant found to be ineligible under provisions of the US Immigration and Nationality Act.

VISA INELIGIBILITY/WAIVER

The nonimmigrant visa application Form DS-156 lists classes of persons who are ineligible under U.S. law to receive visas. In some instances an applicant who is ineligible, but who is otherwise properly classifiable as a temporary worker, may apply for a waiver of ineligibility and be issued a visa if the waiver is approved.

APPLYING FOR THE VISA

Applicants for temporary work visas should generally apply at the American Embassy or Consulate with jurisdiction over their place of permanent residence. Although visa applicants may apply at any U.S. consular office abroad, it may be more difficult to qualify for the visa outside the country of permanent residence.

Required Documentation

Each applicant for a temporary worker visa must pay a nonrefundable US$45 application fee and submit:

1) An application Form DS-156, completed and signed. Blank forms are available without charge at all U.S. consular offices;

2) A passport valid for travel to the United States and with a validity date at least six months beyond the applicant's intended period of stay in the United States. If more than one person is included in the passport, each person desiring a visa must make an application;

3) One photograph 1 and 1/2 inches square (37x37mm) for each applicant, showing full face, against a light background; and

4) A notice of approval, Form I-797.

Other Documentation

With the exception of the H-1 and L-1, applicants may also need to show proof of binding ties to a residence outside the United States which they have no intention of abandoning. It is impossible to specify the exact form the evidence should take since applicants' circumstances vary greatly.

U.S. PORT OF ENTRY

Applicants should be aware that a visa does not guarantee entry into the United States. The U.S. US Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) has authority to deny admission. Also, the period for which the bearer of a temporary work visa is authorized to remain in the United States is determined by the INS, not the consular officer. At the port of entry, an INS official validates Form I-94, Record of Arrival-Departure, which notes the length of stay permitted. Those temporary workers who wish to stay beyond the time indicated on their Form I-94 must contact the INS to request Form I-539, Application to Extend Status. The decision to grant or deny a request for extension of stay is made solely by the INS.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

Family Members

With the exception of "Q-1 Cultural Exchange Visitors," the spouse and unmarried, minor children of an applicant under any of the above classifications may also be classified as nonimmigrants in order to accompany or join the principal applicant. A person who has received a visa as the spouse or child of a temporary worker may not accept employment in the United States. The principal applicant must be able to show that he or she will be able to support his or her family in the United States.

Time Limits

All of the above classifications have fixed time limits in which the alien may perform services in the United States. In some cases those time limits may be extended by the INS in order to permit the completion of the services. Thereafter, the alien must remain abroad for a fixed period of time before being readmitted as a temporary worker under any classification. The INS will notify the petitioner on Form I-797 whenever a visa petition, an extension of a visa petition, or an extension of stay is approved under any of the above classifications. The beneficiary may use a copy of Form I-797 to apply for a new or revalidated visa during the validity period of the petition. The approval of a permanent labor certification or the filing of a preference petition for an alien under the H-1 or L classifications shall not be a basis for denying a visa.

http://www.infodomain.com/temporar.htm


8 posted on 01/21/2006 6:03:00 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
The only RNC member to say "no" during the vote on the pro-guest worker resolution...said he has yet to see a guest-worker plan that doesn't amount to amnesty, and said Mr. Bush has his work cut out for him trying to explain how he can craft such a plan.

Smoke and mirrors??

We've got ONE sane RNC member. The President and the rest of the RNC have essentially condoned the wholesale invasion of our country by rewarding these criminals with impunity and a wink....

ITMT, the illegal invasion from Mexico continues unabated with the Bush Administration having NO real plan to stop it.

Is Dubya representing the citizenry of America OR implimenting some other entity's agenda?

9 posted on 01/21/2006 6:11:50 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: kellynla

Bottom line: the country club set will get their cheap landscaping.


10 posted on 01/21/2006 6:12:29 AM PST by Pio (He who has not Mary for a Mother, has not God for a Father.)
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To: F16Fighter

"Is Dubya representing the citizenry of America OR implimenting some other entity's agenda?"

cheap labor


11 posted on 01/21/2006 6:17:40 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: Pio

"Bottom line: the country club set will get their cheap landscaping."

what the GOP has yet to realize is that this so called "cheap labor" comes with a very high premium...
in California alone, it costs us NINE BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR to allow illegals to stay here, hospitals are closing because they can't afford to continue to give illegals FREE MEDICAL CARE and ONE THIRD of our prisons in America are populated with ILLEGALS!

"cheap" is not CHEAP!
it comes with a very high premium!


12 posted on 01/21/2006 6:21:11 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: Pio; All

Send back two request for money this week (mailed to me as a survey)with no money and big black marker on survey with "NO MONEY UNTIL SECURE BORDER AND REMOVE ILLEGALS."
GOP will not get my support until they stop this invasion.


13 posted on 01/21/2006 6:22:27 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: Pio

Actually, the DOL sets the wage for the H2B ag workers, at a rate that is competitive with local guys. In our market, a completely inexperienced laborer starts at around 8.50/hour - whether he's from here or not. That's about the industry standard in the midwest. Additionally, we have supervisors in this same visa category making 12-16 dollars/hour.

Your cheap labor comment doesn't wash when it comes to legal workers. It's the idiots that keep hiring illegals that are the issue there. They pay low wages, because they know an illegal worker has no recourse. That's wrong on many levels.


14 posted on 01/21/2006 6:23:49 AM PST by The Coopster
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To: kellynla

Well, there's the answer. The pubbies won't be pushing for secure borders. I'm headed over to the Constitution Party website to check things out. At this moment, I'm 95% sure I'm changing party affiliation.


15 posted on 01/21/2006 6:28:02 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: ConsentofGoverned

If I were able to believe that Hillary would actually, truthfully enforce our immigration law, she would get my vote. (Please pray for me.)


16 posted on 01/21/2006 6:29:45 AM PST by DancesWithBolsheviks (/sarc tag currently in the shop.)
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To: SmithL; DTogo; rdb3; DumpsterDiver; janetgreen; HiJinx; calcowgirl

ping


17 posted on 01/21/2006 6:30:51 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks

G elding
O ld
P arty

As far as the Constitution Party goes, I have a problem with their substituting tariffs for income taxes; I would rather see a national sales tax to replace the federal income tax.


18 posted on 01/21/2006 6:37:12 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
From the article:

Meeting a few blocks from the White House at the Capital Hilton, the umbrella organization of the Republican Party adopted a resolution that calls for continued legal immigration, criticizes illegal immigration and endorses a new work program for foreign workers. However, the resolution states there should be "no amnesty for those persons presently in the United States illegally."

What is so wrong about this?

19 posted on 01/21/2006 6:37:28 AM PST by The Coopster
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To: kellynla
GOP Blinks

Let's just hope Congress doesn't blink because obviously the RNC doesn't speak for most of us out here in the real world who have to live with these unwanted policies.

20 posted on 01/21/2006 6:37:54 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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