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To: trebb
They either condemn people for homosexuality, without attempting to influence the homosexuals in a positive fashion, or they promote homosexuals within their churches.

Excellent observation we need to say this clearly: Homosexuality is a damnable sin and an addiction, not a lifestyle choice and you were no more born a homosexual than I was an alcoholic but I know I have the genetic background which makes me susceptible to that so I avoid the drink.

At the same time we need to love these people, and love does mean telling someone they are in sin and endangering their soul. I think many Christians pick homosexuality and abortion as their pet sins because its easy for them to avoid doing it themselves while pointing a finger at others. Always talk to someone about the saving grace of Christ by using a sin you commit, a sin you have in common with that person.

11 posted on 01/24/2006 8:08:06 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3

"At the same time we need to love these people, and love does mean telling someone they are in sin and endangering their soul."

Well put brother. Also, bear in mind, that if one persist in unrepentent sin, then one can not hear G-d or see G-d. To rebel against G-d is to separate yourself from him (definition of sin.) Does this mean that the homosexual will lose his soul? We have all fallen short of the glory of G-d. But we must repent and recognize our need for G-d before we can have a relationship with him. The fallacy of homosexual acceptance is that it denies the W-rd of G-d. It is almost impossible for someone to hear the voice of G-d if they are in open rebellion to him. Most of us try to make G-d in our own image (or what we see as our image, not as we really are!) They remember the G-d of Love in the Person of Messiah, but they forgot that G-d is also (and must be) a G-d of justice. All of our sins will be judged, either in this life or after this life; but always by our faith. Our acceptance of the sacrifice is sufficient to pay for our sins--but what does judgement mean? A poor example might be like the Judge in a courtroom--he assigns judgement to fit both the punishment for the crime, but also to reprove the person so that they learn and do the crime no more. As a father, you discipline your child out of love, not out of anger or pleasure--because you realize that if you don't, that little image of you will grow up to be without morality because they have not been taught goodness. What makes homosexuality such an affront to G-d? It denies his existence. A person should turn from this lifestyle because they can not get the blessings of G-d otherwise. Most of the modern churches are selling fire insurance. But what is hell? Hell is to be separated from G-d. What is Heaven? Heaven is to be with G-d.....Many have sought to invoke the Golden Rule as a sign to accept anthing and everything--but if you read what He really said, the Golden Rule means to treat others as you would want to be treated yourself--not a license to accept G-dlessness. In other words, in the spirit of the golden rule, if I commit a wrong, I would hope that someone would tell me in the spirit of love--not just blow me off so as not to offend me.


47 posted on 01/24/2006 2:17:02 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: N3WBI3

We pick on homosexuality a lot because it is in a list of sins that will lead to one being outside the kingdom of God in the NT.

Also, Scripture says sexual sin is worse than other sins.

Homosexuality is not a small sin, and anyone who is homosexual will go to hell. Period. You simply CANNNOT be gay and be saved. It is impossible. That is why it is so serious to spread the Gospel to gays.

Instead of doing so, the makers of this film chose to reward him for his lifestyle and give him more work.


52 posted on 01/24/2006 3:07:02 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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