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Gonzales Crushes Arguments Against NSA's International Surveillance
Power Line ^ | 1/24/06 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 01/24/2006 12:00:36 PM PST by frankjr

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To: deport

Much ado about nothing. I assumed that all phonecalls from abroad were always screened by Echelon even prior to 9/11.

It appears to me that it's actually more targeted. Calls from suspicious sources or areas are being intercepted.

Good.

I'm not even sure wiretaps are being put on specific call recipients. I think it's being done midstream. If you get a call from al-Qaida, chances are that the call is being recorded, even if you were never on any government watch list prior to picking up the phone.


21 posted on 01/24/2006 4:02:46 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Carry_Okie
There's nothing quite like a false premise to weaken a case

The Magiot Line. Fredrick the Great. "He who defends everything defends nothing" There is NO way to defend everything. AG is EXACTLY right, "We cannot build walls thick enough, fences high enough, or systems strong enough to keep our enemies out of our open and welcoming country." We would have to become a Nazi style police state and even THEN we could not accomplish the above. Anyone who doesn't accept this reality is lying to themselves.

22 posted on 01/24/2006 4:56:21 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Is there a satire god who created Al Gore for the sole purpose of making us laugh?)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Moonbattery...it's all around us.

That should frighten us. There is no reason why the Moonbattery couldn't re-gain control of Congress - the country would certainly be in dire straights should that happen.

23 posted on 01/24/2006 5:30:59 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: MNJohnnie
There is NO way to defend everything. AG is EXACTLY right, "We cannot build walls thick enough, fences high enough, or systems strong enough to keep our enemies out of our open and welcoming country."

No, he's not. Between adequate border control, deporting anyone who refuses to renounce Islamic preference for Sharia law over the Constitution, and empowering the organized militia, this country has the resources to greatly reduce the risk it faces without necessitating internal controls repugnant to liberty. As to effectiveness, the Bush Administration preference for uncontrolled borders is a farce by comparison. The sheer numbers of foreign nationals within this country invites eventual measures that will REQUIRE the police state measures you supposedly fear.

We would have to become a Nazi style police state and even THEN we could not accomplish the above.

The means necessary to track and distinguish "guest workers" will more resemble a police state than anything I have proposed, sirrah. My proposal relies principally upon free civilians, yours upon a government agency.

Anyone who doesn't accept this reality is lying to themselves.

Delusional, as usual.

24 posted on 01/24/2006 6:10:28 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: frankjr

This is all too lawyery...to much legalize about the cans and cannots...

When a country is at War, it is engaged in the Law of Survival. Note "Law of Survival"!

That means that the active authority is to:

1) Find the Enemy
2) Kill the Enemy
3) Capture the Enemy if he surrenders

Since the President is Commander in Chief and his job is to Find the Enemy, Constitutional Law does not apply to the Enemy.

The Enemy has no rights other than Die or Surrender!

When the Administration starts talking appropriate language for this situation, then maybe, the American Middle will demand that the leftist vacate to Iran or Saudi Arabia.


25 posted on 01/24/2006 6:27:19 PM PST by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: frankjr
Full Text Here:

http://fas.org/irp/news/2006/01/ag012406.html

26 posted on 01/25/2006 7:46:10 AM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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