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David Ludwig Pleads NOT GUILTY in Lititz Slaying of Teen Girlfriend's Parents
Philadelphia Inquirer ^
| 1/26/06
| AP
Posted on 01/26/2006 6:41:13 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: agrace; bboop; cgk; Conservativehomeschoolmama; cyborg; cyclotic; DaveLoneRanger; dawn53; ...
Ping to the Home Educators!
he and Kara, both of whom were home-schooled
When will we ever read an article that says, "the killer, who was public-schooled..."
To: chae
You got Audio Free Republic? Cool.
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posted on
01/27/2006 8:29:04 AM PST
by
cyclotic
(Cub Scouts-Teach 'em young to be men, and politically incorrect in the process)
To: Dr. Scarpetta
What's the point of pleading not guilty when he confessed?He's hoping that there's at least one idiot sitting on his jury.
I'd take that bet.
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posted on
01/27/2006 8:30:31 AM PST
by
mewzilla
(Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
To: Dr. Scarpetta
I sincerely hope she DOES blame herself. And learns a lot. She was defiant, she was angry and head-strong, and acting on that kind of self-righteousness often leads to very dire consequences. She learned it young and the hard way. She is NOT an innocent victim of this, imho.
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posted on
01/27/2006 8:42:20 AM PST
by
bboop
(Stealth Tutor)
To: iamowed15Kforsupport
"I pray to God that she does not blame herself."She doesn't have to "blame herself"; there are many people who do.
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posted on
01/27/2006 8:56:09 AM PST
by
Designer
(Just a nit-pick'n and chagrin'n)
To: Tired of Taxes
When will we ever read an article that says, "the killer, who was public-schooled..." Probably never since the home school bashers all drink from the dumbed-down public education fountain. They'll continue to be deaf, dumb and blind while considering themselves to be elites who know it all.
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posted on
01/27/2006 8:57:30 AM PST
by
demkicker
(democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
To: iamowed15Kforsupport
There's more to this story than meets the eye. This young lady could be as guilty as her BF.
BTW, Welcome to FR! (I read through your posts and notice no one else bothered.)
To: fabriclady
I believe Kara Borden will be charged.
**
I hope you are right. She is just as guilty as he is.
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posted on
01/27/2006 9:52:26 AM PST
by
Bigg Red
(Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
To: wouldntbprudent
When the accused doesn't plead guilty and there is loads of evidence against him, this just ticks off the judge and jury. Why did I sit here for four weeks (or more) listening to this garbage? Is the accused not remorseful at all? Why didn't he just take responsibility for the crime he obviously committed? It certainly can reduce sympathy for a clearly guilty defendant. Since he already confessed, it makes no sense to plead not guilty. IMO
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posted on
01/27/2006 10:41:41 AM PST
by
Dr. Scarpetta
(Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
To: fabriclady
I don't know how they could stand to be near their sister Kara. Newspaper articles haven't commented on where the kids are and if they're together.
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posted on
01/27/2006 10:45:19 AM PST
by
Dr. Scarpetta
(Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
To: mewzilla
He's hoping that there's at least one idiot sitting on his jury. I'd take that bet. His lawyers will be hoping to put several on the jury.
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posted on
01/27/2006 10:47:10 AM PST
by
Dr. Scarpetta
(Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
To: Dr. Scarpetta
"He's hoping that there's at least one idiot sitting on his jury. I'd take that bet.
His lawyers will be hoping to put several on the jury.
I read one article, I believe it was in the Lancaster news, that said insanity is one plan. Seems there is some sort of disorder that runs in his family. I read the article but can't recall all the details. He has a sister with downs syndrone, seems like that was a link to the insanity plea.
I think he is just cold hearted, selfish, spoiled, arrogant and just plain mean. That is blunt, but my feelings exactly.
Also, he must have thought he was smarter that the legal system. He had bragged to friends that he thought he could kill someone and get away with it. Well, we see how far he got.
To: Bigg Red
And as arrogant as he is.
I don't doubt for a second that they discussed what they would do if her parents refused them to be together.
She is nothing less than a delinquent juvenile and should have some form of punishment. When she testifies against Ludwig, he may let go of his protection of her. Then the truth will come out. There are lots of rumors, note I said rumors, that she is pregnant.
To: Dr. Scarpetta
"Newspaper articles haven't commented on where the kids are and if they're together."
I read an article, may have been a post on Talk back, that Kara was with relatives in Missouri and the two young siblings are in the Lancaster area with relatives.
I do pray that the siblings of Kara have a good family to rear them. They will need a lot of love and most surly hugs to get them through.
To: fabriclady
When she testifies against Ludwig, he may let go of his protection of her. Then the truth will come out. I'll be interested to see what she says in court. Maybe by then, she'll have some idea of what she did.
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posted on
01/27/2006 12:14:30 PM PST
by
Dr. Scarpetta
(Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
To: Dr. Scarpetta
Agreed. Unless the defense is supremely confident they can have the confession suppressed, pleading "not guilty" is not a good move.
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posted on
01/27/2006 1:04:10 PM PST
by
wouldntbprudent
(If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
To: wouldntbprudent
This is a comment from Lancasteronline
"Ludwig's plea of not guilty is a "procedural formality," meaning that this is a common practice. It also says that the plea doesn't mean that's what he's going to plead when he goes before a judge, nor does it even mean there's going to be a trial."
Seems like a lot of things in PA are different. And, he has already admitted guilt. Seems odd to me.
To: fabriclady
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posted on
01/27/2006 1:45:04 PM PST
by
wouldntbprudent
(If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
To: fabriclady
You are totally right. This kid made a decision to kill, because he wanted what he couldn't have, and then he was arrogant enough to think he could get away with it. Murder. Bad decision -- choose evil, reap huge consequences. Hopefully he will.
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posted on
01/28/2006 9:17:41 AM PST
by
bboop
(Stealth Tutor)
To: bboop
A lot of post I read blame the killing on the parents of Ludwig. My opinion they may have been lax with the guns. This could have been because he talked like a Christian and before them acted exactly like a good Christian. I feel very sorry for the parents. Their only son will never be free. I have two son's, age 45 & 50. I try to imagine what it would be like to lose a son in this evil manner. You know, I draw a blank, I can't even imagine it. I have a grandson that is 6. I pray for a good and loving future for him.
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