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Key to Kosovo Serb survival
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| Misa Djurkovic
Posted on 01/27/2006 8:50:29 AM PST by montyspython
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Thank you Bill Clinton for making Kosovo safe for Serbs < /sarcasm>
To: montyspython
Yes, Clinton's Wilsonian war to save spread democracy in Kosovo created negative blowblack, just as Bush's Wilsonian war to spread democracy in Iraq did. You are right sir.
To: tgambill; ma bell; Wraith; DTA; Banat; getoffmylawn; FormerLib; F-117A; Hoplite; mark502inf
I suppose we should aslo extend our sincerest gratitude to individuals like Hoplite and mark502inf for supporting the KLA in their endeavor to to eradicate Serbs and Serbian history from Kosovo.
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posted on
01/27/2006 8:56:15 AM PST
by
montyspython
(Love that chicken from Popeye's)
To: Austin Willard Wright
Mr. Clinton is most certainly familiar with blowing.
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posted on
01/27/2006 8:57:32 AM PST
by
montyspython
(Love that chicken from Popeye's)
To: montyspython
Decentralization? well....how about Albanians going back to their so-called "homeland" - Albania...or Turkey or the west bank.
That sounds like a decent decentralization plan.
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posted on
01/27/2006 9:01:18 AM PST
by
eleni121
('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
To: montyspython
There might still be time to give Kosovo back to Serbia before the UN comes over here demanding that we hand California and Texas over to Vincente Fox on the same basis.
To: ironwoodchuck
The US supports Kosovo's Independence, a very bad precedence.
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01/27/2006 9:07:37 AM PST
by
montyspython
(Love that chicken from Popeye's)
To: eleni121
That would be a novel idea, Albanians living in Albania.
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posted on
01/27/2006 9:08:28 AM PST
by
montyspython
(Love that chicken from Popeye's)
To: montyspython
That would be a novel idea, Albanians living in Albania
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LOL. If they're so jingoistic that's where they belong...
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posted on
01/27/2006 9:14:02 AM PST
by
eleni121
('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
To: montyspython
Supports it........?? They have a website and lobbying group. Check this change of tone from 1998 to present....
Circa 1998
Holbrooke: An independent Kosovo would "unravel Southeastern Europe."
JIM LEHRER: And they want an independent Kosovo ruled by Albanians, right?
RICHARD HOLBROOKE: Yes. And more. I met with several Albanian leaders in Kosovo who said their goal is an independent Kosovo, their goal is to recreate the Greater Albania that existed briefly during the 30's and 40's, which includes Albania, Kosovo, and part of Macedonia. That, I can tell you, Jim, would unravel Southeastern Europe and dramatically increase the chances of a general war. And that's why the situation is both not the same as Bosnia and why it's so dangerous
I really need to stress this point so people do not misunderstand it. The Kosovo Albanians have been very badly treated for over a decade by the Serb minority in Kosovo. Their rights have been denied and the Yugoslav federal constitution was changed to reduce their powers. This was entirely wrong, and it led to the inevitable reaction which we're now seeing. At the same time, the violent solution which is being advocated by the so-called Kosovo Liberation Army, which is really not an army but a lot of different groups that are gradually forming an infrastructure of resistance, this approach is highly dangerous to stability in the region.
Sept. 10, 2002
Cumberland, Md.: Where you aware of the KLA and Bosnian Muslims' ties to Osama bin Laden at the time you were negotiating with them?
Richard C. Holbrooke: Yes. In fact, we were so concerned about this issue that we wrote into the Dayton Peace Agreements a clause requiring the withdrawal of all "foreign elements" within a short time after the agreement took force. When we found elements that had remained behind, we launched raids against them. Not all of these people were removed, and the effort is still continuing. Without the peace in Bosnia, there is a real chance that bin Laden would have been able to set up in the Balkans what he did in Afghanistan with far greater danger to the West.
Now--fast-forward Nov 8 2005:
Holbrooke, the architect of the 1995 Bosnian peace deal, who said that independence was the only way forward for Kosovo and its mainly Muslim Albanians.
"I cannot see any final status for Kosovo other than independence," said Holbrooke, who forged the Dayton Peace Accords that ended Bosnia's 1992-95 war.
"But at the same time ... this cannot be achieved without ironclad guarantees for the safety, security, and protection of the rights of the Serbs who live in Kosovo and the protection of their magnificent monuments," he said.
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posted on
01/27/2006 9:14:59 AM PST
by
tgambill
(I would like to comment.....)
To: tgambill; Wraith; ma bell; Hoplite
Holbrooke is a POS he's been doing the Kerry flip-flop for over 10 years now and Hoplutians take this ingrate for his word.
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posted on
01/27/2006 9:24:10 AM PST
by
montyspython
(Love that chicken from Popeye's)
To: eleni121
they actually don't get along. K-Albanians don't like the Albania Albanians. In WWII, it's interesting to note that K-Albanians linked up with Hitler and formed an Albanians SS group called Skenderburg Division. They murdered thousands of Slavs and Jews starting in 1943. Guess what? Hitler promised them a Greater Albania if they did. The Albania Albanians were not involved. They didn't resist Hitler but they didn't join either. They actually didn't like the Germans.
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01/27/2006 9:34:41 AM PST
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tgambill
(I would like to comment.....)
To: montyspython
"That would be a novel idea, Albanians living in Albania."
******Oh, I may have mentioned this earlier in other posts, but.....Today, the NLA in Macedonia, as we know as far back as 2003, has an organization in Macedonia. Ok, we know that. Also, the MPRI assisted the NLA during the Macedonian conflict. At one point, 17 were there. So, guess what they named the Northern group in 2003.....?? "The Skenderburg Division"........:) can you dig it....?? Same as WWII.
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01/27/2006 9:39:14 AM PST
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tgambill
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To: tgambill
Skanderbeg, this Nazi inspired piece of nostalgia needs to be dismantled asap. The US has no business in assisting these terrorist thugs, but yet we do.
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posted on
01/27/2006 9:41:43 AM PST
by
montyspython
(Love that chicken from Popeye's)
To: montyspython
You read the reasons we are there......that policy could change depending on the independence issue, as I said, and after what will happen....
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posted on
01/27/2006 9:51:03 AM PST
by
tgambill
(I would like to comment.....)
To: montyspython
To: montyspython
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posted on
01/27/2006 1:56:49 PM PST
by
F-117A
To: montyspython
Monty all this is very simple, mixing the present generation of Serbs and Albanians will never happen. Even the next two generations are tainted by all this. Its time that the world woke up and saw this crime for what it is, organized genocide on the part of the KLA against the remainder of the Serbs. This will, repeat, will not stop until the KLA has killed them off. This waiting game and naive approach is costing lives. Let the Serbs under the new regime take back control of Kosovo. That is the only viable solution. Those Albanians that wish to live in peace with the Serbs so be it, but those that want to continue the violence let them at their own peril because the Serbs will sort them out...
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posted on
01/27/2006 4:09:24 PM PST
by
Wraith
(The village called the idiot is missing...)
To: tgambill; montyspython
Tom I agree the Independence issue is a position the US would not like to take sides on. Relations between NATO and the Serbs has improved a great deal. Could it be that the KLA NLA etc have outlived their usefulness? The Serbs are far better allies than the narco terrorists could ever be. At least with the Serbs you know what you are dealing with. I find the troop reduction in Kosovo very interesting. It seems to be a trend in other parts of the world like Korea. Somethings up...
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posted on
01/28/2006 2:26:08 PM PST
by
Wraith
(The village called the idiot is missing...)
To: Wraith
"Let the Serbs under the new regime take back control of Kosovo. That is the only viable solution. Those Albanians that wish to live in peace with the Serbs so be it, but those that want to continue the violence let them at their own peril because the Serbs will sort them out..."
****** this would be the exact solution and would work. In other words we and the UN butt out and let them deal it.
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01/28/2006 2:40:42 PM PST
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tgambill
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